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The Death D-fying Vitamin

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The bad pun is not mine. It belongs to Michael F. Holick, writing in June's Mayo Clinic Proceedings [1].

Holick is one of the big names in Vitamin D research [2]. His article is a commentary on the research of Dr Daniel Dudenkov.

Dudenkov uses 20-50 ng/mL as his reference range. Deficiency is <20 ng/mL. {The reference range is usually split between insufficiency & sufficiency where the split is usually at 32 (sometimes 30).}

"... important was the observation that the {mortality} HR for those who had a 25(OH)D level greater than 50 ng/mL was 1 and thus not different from the reference range."

"For white patients who had 25(OH)D levels of less than 12 and 12 to 19 ng/mL .., their unadjusted all-cause mortality hazard ratios (HRs) were 2.6 and 1.3, respectively, when compared with their reference range of 20 to 50 ng/mL."

"The observation by Dudenkov et al1 is thus supportive of a multitude of studies worldwide reporting that the maintenance of vitamin D sufficiency can result in substantial reductions in cancer, cardiovascular, and all-cause mortality rates. However, is too much of a good thing bad for you? The Institute of Medicine in its report10 also recognized that there was an inverse relationship of all-cause mortality and serum 25(OH)D levels less than 30 ng/mL. In addition, on the basis of a few studies, the Institute of Medicine raised the concern that when 25(OH)D levels are greater than 30 ng/mL, there is an increased risk of all-cause mortality. They concluded that a blood level of 25(OH)D greater than 50 ng/mL potentially increases the risk of mortality, thereby profiling a J-curve or U-curve phenomenon. More recent studies have challenged this notion of the J or U curve pertaining to serum 25(OH)D levels that are either salutary or potentially injurious. Garland et al11 in a meta-analysis of 32 studies found a dramatic decrease in all-cause mortality with higher 25(OH)D levels; the maximum benefit was observed when blood levels of 25(OH)D were greater than 30 ng/mL, and this benefit extended above 70 ng/mL. Dudenkov et al1 in their cohort confirmed that there is no increased mortality risk when blood levels of 25(OH)D are greater than 50 ng/mL."

Here is a brief video of Dr Daniel Dudenkov

youtube.com/watch?v=CEp8ZRz...

-Patrick

[1] mayoclinicproceedings.org/a...

[2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha...

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Thanks for this Pat. And thank you for maintaining your integrity.

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ITCandy, what is your ng/mL vitamin D level with 5000 IU twice daily?

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"my family Dr won't order a D test unless there is an issue with the calcium reading"

hmmm, my doc seems to think it is very important to watch that my vitamin D level does not exceed, or even get too close to, 100 ng/mL

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pjoshea13 in reply tocesanon

Some doctors fear "hypervitaminosis D". It is described as an excess of D, but the remedy is vitamin K. Should be reclassified as "hypovitaminosis K".

IT takes K2, so I doubt that his calcium will get out of whack.

I agree that, at least until one has settled on a regular D dose, one should watch 25-D levels. One has to go well above 100 ng/mL before toxicity occurs, but why guess? I need 7,000 IU to maintain 60-65 ng/mL.

-Patrick

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What is a reasonable starting dose of vitamin k?

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cesanon

What about this?

Life Extension Super K with Advanced K2 Complex, 90 softgels

lifeextension.com/Vitamins-...

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snoraste

I’m taking Zhou brand available from amazon. It’s D3 and K2 combined. I take one capsule a day = 90mcg of K2 and 5000IU D3

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