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Binging on sourdough bread w banana n honey

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tingling and tautness in my left fingers is at all time high......connected? thanks in advance, john

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park_bear

I don't know but personally I'd find that to be way too much sugar.

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Jockboy17 in reply to park_bear

agreed, can’t be good even with out PD

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Bolt_Upright

I'm kind of fringe. I think PD is autoimmune and think anybody with autoimmune issues should go gluten and lectin free.

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Jockboy17 in reply to Bolt_Upright

Also agreed, I think I’ve gotten a little or a lot of late, loosey goosy with comfort foods

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pdpatient

I love bananas!!

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curlscurls

You could try substituting an agave syrup to see if it's the honey in that amount? Honey has all sorts of features to it.

Try substituting in a non-sourdough bread? I started making my own sourdough, and I'm finding it addictive. Addictive usually means there's a slide allergy factor. Though in this case I just think my body likes whatever yeast creates, and sourdough is supposed to be good for your gut.

Unless you have a problem otherwise with bananas, I can't imagine that's it.

Or it could all be coincidence of course.

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amykp in reply to curlscurls

Hmm...maybe think about agave, which is basically high fructose syrup with a different name. (It's like 90%?)

I mean, I don't know if the agave would be especially bad for PD, but it wouldn't be great for your liver. You'd be better off with maple syrup, or plain sugar, or something. (Really, imo, you'd be better off without ANY sugar, but if you wanted to test something specific about honey...)

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curlscurls in reply to amykp

I was suggesting an alternative sugar, not a specific one being required. Agave came to mind.

It's low glycemic index. It is naturally high in fructose which is the sugar in fruit. It is not high fructose like high fructose corn is manipulated into.

Trying out substitutions, was my suggestion. I wasn't addressing the quality of eating high sugar. I didn't see need to think about that when plenty of other people started conversations in it.

So if you have ideas for the OP's question, please post them. I gave mine even if you found them offensive.

elliekrieger.com/agave-heal...

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amykp in reply to curlscurls

I didn't, particularly. Just suggesting, if I was gonna test, and had a lot of options, I might choose something else to test with. A lot of folks have no idea that agave has any issues at all.

Actually, if I wanted to see if additives were the issue, I'd use pure sugar. (Not that that's good for you either, at all.)

BTW, despite its name, glucose and fructose are both found in fruit.

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curlscurls in reply to amykp

I know glucose and fructose are both in fruit. Other people know things too.The article indicates that the worry about agave is not accurate.

I don't react poorly to cane sugar. But there are other people who do using diet elimination.

I gave my idea, to do a substitute, so I that's all I had to offer on this.

Jockboy, hope you figure out something that works for you.

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LAJ12345

stop eating them for a few weeks and see if you improve. I’d say yes! At the very least they are ruining your appetite for fresh vegetables which are crucial.

Are you on an ssri like fluoxetine or sertraline? Too much seratonin can cause this kind of behaviour.

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Jockboy17 in reply to LAJ12345

Excellent idea and no, not on any ssri’s. Ty

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Eryl

Though sourdough is the healthiest bread of all varieties, it still contains a lot of carbohydrate which will soon turn into sugar in your gut and then to add sugar in the form of bananas (one of the sweetest fruits) and honey is asking for trouble.

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debmorris1

I think binging would be the keyword here.

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Jockboy17 in reply to debmorris1

Yes I start with just a slice or two but turns into 5. Difficulty in moderation with bread, love it too much

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Trig27

sugar is neurotoxic. tingling can be a sign of nerve damage. your cells are probably starved for energy, research beta oxidation and try to re-develop metabolic flexibility by changing your diet. it will be hard at first, good luck

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Jockboy17 in reply to Trig27

I certainly will research, ty

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Jockboy17 in reply to Trig27

Hi Trig, do you distinguish between added sugars and sugar from fruit? I'm contemplating keeping berries in the mix (blueberry and strawberries mostly).

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Trig27 in reply to Jockboy17

Added sugar is a big no no. Sugar in fruit I think is ok, within reason. I do think you can over so it though.

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7springshollow

I make homemade sour dough regularly and eat it like crazy and haven't noticed any effect on my Parkinson's

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PalmSprings

I have been there. When I start to binge, it so fun for a little while and then I start to pay, 🤣 .

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Jockboy17

Thanks everyone for feedback. I did a 24 hour fast from all foods just to reset. My plan is to abstain from foods that are dangerous for me. I have an addictive personality at times and I'm not capable of having just one of my danger foods. The phrase "one is too many and a thousands never enough" applies to me. I'm hoping to primarily be in the higher healthy fats, lower carb (not extreme low carb), fresh greens, low sugar fruits and moderate protein (primarily salmon, turkey, grass fed/grass finished hamburger occasionally.