Tinned fruit

[jeeves19]

God I’m already getting such a high knowing that such a simple yet provocatively curious post title, is going to be rubbing shoulders with the crappy and mostly pointless ever complex stable mates e.g PX147 gene corruption shows evidence of Parkinson’s type symptoms in mice 😂. Let me just say it loudly once more as therapy: TINNED FRUIT! and not a ‘stem cells grown from lactating raccoons nipples show promise for PWP transplant by 2056’. in sight 🤔😬.

Alright. Enough 😂. Maybe this is the start of Parkinson’s dementia for me, either that or I’m just very immature?!

So I read up on Laurie Mischleys work. Take home distillation: exercise hard 7 days a week. ( Blimey 😦), be thin, gorge on vegetables and fruit and don’t consume dairy or meat.

But as a footnote, I noticed a real downer on this posts title 🥫. I’m slightly stumped in trying to ascertain what the factor could be that does damage and wondered if the community had any thoughts? Is it the metal seeping into the fruit, is it the syrup added or does something happen to the fruit itself when residing in a can for a long time? Just curious. Cheers for your input.

[Smokeypurple]

Last I heard her speak nobody knows yet. She's reporting what the PD outliers do or don't do and inviting us to copy.

Suggestions varied from metal in can, to age of fruit/veg in the can, to what might be done before it's put in the can... etc

The one I struggle with is canned lentils - easy staple. I'm rarely organised with the boiling them up in advance. But I'm working on it and convinced fresh is most likely best.

[Kevin51]

mixed comments here healthline.com/nutrition/ca... ; i generally avoid but eat lots of tinned sardines ...

[AaronS]

It might be sugar content as its so concentrated, just a guess tho. Maybe it's because fruit grows on trees and your buying it in tins. To many hands have touched it between getting to your mouth and being picked from the tree, who actually knows what has been added.

[Hidden]

BPA lining in cans and canning degrades nutritional value (my guess as she says she doesn’t know) But mostly her thinking that correlation equates to causation and making well intentioned but broad stroke generalizations. For example, “dairy” fat free flavored nonsense is lumped in the same category as organic full fat goat milk yogurt. Very flawed. I do not worry about the cans. Off to open a can / tin of coconut because I’m a PD rebel.

[park_bear in reply to Hidden]

academic.oup.com/endo/artic...

Large Effects from Small Exposures. III. Endocrine Mechanisms Mediating Effects of Bisphenol A at Levels of Human Exposure

"Over 6 billion pounds per year of the estrogenic monomer bisphenol A (BPA) are used to manufacture polycarbonate plastic products, in resins lining metal cans, in dental sealants, and in blends with other types of plastic products. The ester bond linking BPA molecules in polycarbonate and resins undergoes hydrolysis, resulting in the release of free BPA into food, beverages, and the environment, and numerous monitoring studies now show almost ubiquitous human exposure to biologically active levels of this chemical. BPA exerts estrogenic effects through the classical nuclear estrogen receptors, and BPA acts as a selective estrogen receptor modulator. However, BPA also initiates rapid responses via estrogen receptors presumably associated with the plasma membrane. Similar to estradiol, BPA causes changes in some cell functions at concentrations between 1 pm and 1 nm, and the mean and median range of unconjugated BPA measured by multiple techniques in human pregnant maternal, fetal, and adult blood and other tissues exceeds these levels. In contrast to these published findings, BPA manufacturers persist in describing BPA as a weak estrogen and insist there is little concern with human exposure levels. Our concern with human exposure to BPA derives from 1) identification of molecular mechanisms mediating effects in human and animal tissues at very low doses, 2) in vivo effects in experimental animals caused by low doses within the range of human exposure, and 3) widespread human exposure to levels of BPA that cause adverse effects in animals."

[Despe]

Avoid anything in a can, Jeeves. However, some cans are BPA free ( so they claim).

[JCRO in reply to Despe]

Laurie Mischley’s research has indicated for several years that people eating either ice cream and/or tinned fruit do much worse in terms of rapid disease progression than those that don’t. High sugar content and the plastics used to line the tins are possible culprits. PD or otherwise, there are better food choices.