Af and restless sleepa

[Hrpapa]

I have permanent Af. Any suggestion how to cope with restless sleep and insomnia. Is it related to Af.?

[jeanjeannie50]

For many years now I've been prescribed the lowest dose of a sleeping drug called Zopiclone. I've suffered with not being able to sleep since my early 40's. People who have never had a problem with sleeping have no idea how dreadful lack of sleep can make you feel. How long have have you had this problem and have you spoken to your GP?

I have permanent AF too, have had 3 ablations and many cardioversions but my AF is now mild between 60 -90bpm and I can cope . Though I know that I couldn't without my sleeping pills.

Best wishes

Jean

[Hrpapa in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Well, my cardiologist and sleep spesialist advice is to lose some weight - I am 95kg. The restless sleep started six months ago. I dont't have symptoms appart of occasional chest tieghtness going upstairs. I was diagnosed with permanent Afb three yrs ago. Advised not to do ablation.

[actionteddy in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Hello JeanI was interested reading your comments on afib and sleeping.

I have lost count of the years I have been on zopiclone long before being diagnosed with af.

I'm always reading you should only take them short term but know I would not sleep at all without them.

Winter months are always worse as I also suffer from SAD. Glad to hear I'm not the only one.

Happy new year,April

[jeanjeannie50 in reply to actionteddy]

Happy New Year April.

Yes, I too worry about having been on Zopiclone so long. I don't want to ask my GP as I'm sure a plan would be made to get me to stop taking them. Like you I know that I'd never sleep without them. I did try for many years.

Jean

[Karendeena in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Hi Jean, I have paroxysmal afib but suffered with restless sleep, jittery, dreaming, constant waking up etc. Got to the point where I am so distressed I fear going to bed. I used to love my bed but all this has happened in the last few years, not sure if it's stress from trying to look after my 95 year old mum, my brother who has a wealth of health problems or it's the afib or coming off steroids that I have been on for 2.5 years!! I had Zopiclone but told by the doctor I can't take them regularly and they only prescribe 12 tablets at a time and won't give them to me frequently. Do you live in the UK and do you have these problems?

[jeanjeannie50 in reply to Karendeena]

Hi Karen, yes I live in the UK. I can't say I have any stress in my life other than I'm afraid of the dark. I used to wake absolutely terrified at night with my heart pounding, thinking there was someone in my bedroom. That problem was solved by keeping the hall light on. It's strange because I only realised the dark frightened me, when my brother admitted that he was afraid of it. We lived in some creepy old houses when we were young and I think that's where the fear started.

I get prescribed 28 X 3.75mg of Zopiclone, when I request them. I do think they dull the mind and make me forgetful. I have little spates of reducing my dose but it never lasts. There are lots of days when I have to drive somewhere and lack of a good night's sleep can be dangerous.

[actionteddy in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Hello JeanThis is uncanny, for years I have been terrified of the dark,so always have to have a light on,it's more of a problem in the Winter when the nights are so long,love it in the Summer when it's light by 4ish.

Not that I'm glad you suffer with this but it is comforting to know its not just me .

[jeanjeannie50 in reply to actionteddy]

I know exactly what you mean. Poor old girls aren't we? 🙄🤣

[Czech_Mate]

Yes,we read everywhere that we need regular sleep and irregular sleep is bad for us; but what should we do when our body doesn't want to sleep, worrying about it only makes things worse.

Looking forward to some helpful answers to your useful question.

CM

[AppHorses]

I found Earthing to tremendously help me sleep but I am not permanent AF so not positive if the Earthing pad will affect Af. You might try it for a week or so. Earthing.com

[secondtry]

I have had sleep problems and currently take goodhealthnaturally.com/pro... which has shown some very welcome improvement. nb I have no commercial interest in this product just trying to be helpful by providing a link.

[Hrpapa in reply to secondtry]

Thank you!

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Magnesium & Melatonin may help bc as we age we don’t produce melatonin like we did when we were younger. I’ve read Magnesium helps our bodies produce Melatonin… we take this 30-45 min before bedtime:

Zeal Naturals-Magnesium Complex with Glycinate, Malate, & Citrate

**Not a Doctor.

***Always check to make sure this does not interfere w/ current medications.

My husband had permanent AFib. In ‘22 we found Dr. Randall Wolf and he had his Wolf Mini Maze procedure. Link to his website: wolfminimaze.com

You can find information here also if you research bc this is where I found out about him. Dr Wolf is in Houston, Texas, but there’s a doctor who performs this in the UK and Japan that I’ve read about on here. Now my husband is in NSR w/ no meds.

We’re forever grateful for finding this blog.

❤️‍🩹🙏✨

[Maresydoats]

Have you been tested for sleep apnea? It often co-exists with and/or leads to a-fib.

[Gator50 in reply to Maresydoats]

Concur with Maresydoats- get a sleep test - most with AF have Sleep Apnea- closely related- get the test, get the CPAP machine, sleep thru the night…

[Hrpapa in reply to Maresydoats]

Been tested - border line.

[JOY2THEWORLD49]

Hi

Have you been checked for Sleep Apnea?

cheers JOY. 74. (NZ)

[Moongold7]

I was diagnosed with AF 2 years ago and placed on Bisoprolol and Apixaban. My Cardio also told me to get magnesium supplements, which are all natural. I must have been magnesium deficient anyway, as I can't tell you how this supplement has changed my life! It relaxes the heart and other muscles, relieves anxiety and gives me a sleep like a baby, which I don't believe I've had SINCE I was a baby! I tried different versions of magnesium but the best is Magnesium Bisglycinate, which I order from 88herbs.com (Canada) as their product is non-buffered (no fillers added). Worth every cent and I wouldn't now be without it. One jar holds 90 capsules and I take one each night or second night an hour before bedtime. If I wake due to worry or stress I take another. I now don't need drugs to help me sleep! Hope it may help you also.

[Hrpapa in reply to Moongold7]

Thank you very much!