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Hi guys... again.

It's now been a week since a "proper" Afib episode, I've had a few missed beats and one episode of 5 seconds. I was thinking that is a step in the right direction, but the the cynical side of me is saying it's to do with the high dose 12.5mg of Bisoprolol I'm on that is responsible. Any thoughts. I, m now four and a half weeks post ablation.

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Well at that period your heart may well be starting to calm down. Note starting as you still have a lot of healing to go. Don't knock it.

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Dodie117

You're definitely a glass half empty kind of guy!! Maybe the ablation is working!! Remember bisoprolol us a rate control drug so would not necessarily stop episodes but just slow them down.

My EP took me off bisoprolol on the day of my ablation but I don't think that's the norm. However maybe you could discuss a gradual reduction.

In the meantime try to be patient, be positive and just maybe it will work.

I am six years free of AF so it does work.

Good luck 🍀

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sotolol in reply to Dodie117

Ha. Like that. I read in a book glass half empty or half full. We should be thankful we have a glass. ! Well done on 6 years. Brilliant.

Keep an eye on the sugars you eat and see if they are tied to afib episodes (afib usually happens about 2 hours after you eat over your limit of sugars). Here is what I have documented:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer (this is why all doctors agree that afib gets worse as you get older). If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate (afternoon) exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt?? I also found that strenuous exercise does no good – perhaps you make yourself dehydrated??

I'm pretty sure that Afib is caused by a gland(s) - like the Pancreas, Thyroid (sends signals to the heart to increase speed or strength of beat), Adrenal Gland (sends signals to increase heart rate), Sympathetic Nerve (increases heart rate) or Vagus Nerve (decreases heart rate), Hypothalamus Gland or others - or an organ that, in our old age, is not working well anymore and excess sugar or dehydration is causing them to send mixed signals to the heart - for example telling the heart to beat fast and slow at the same time - which causes it to skip beats, etc. I can't prove that (and neither can my doctors), but I have a very strong suspicion that that is the root cause of our Afib problems. I am working on this with a Nutritionist and hope to get some definitive proof in a few months.

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

PS – there is a study backing up this data you can view at:

https//cardiab.biomedcentral.com/a...

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Brizzy50000

Hang in there kia68 I had an hour run of AF a few days after my ablation but this May it will 3years since mine and no more AF, I was taken off all AF meds after 3months.

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