Father 60yo . 4 th stage cancer. Need advice regarding ESSIAC or any effective treatment.

[ArpanIndia]

Hi All,

My father is 60yo. Diagnosed stage 4 Prostrate Cancer.

It's already spread to limp node. Can any one guide the effectiveness of ESSIAC for prostate cancer ?

Any one what can give best results ?

[Tall_Allen]

Please don't mess around with such treatments when there are proven treatments available. His life is at stake. He can have whole pelvic radiation with long-term hormone therapy which might even be curative.

[LearnAll]

You need to get your father started on established ,standard treatments such as Lupron, Abiraterone etc. Get PSA control .

Thereafter, you can accumulate all the knowledge about other upcoming, newer treatments and complementary treatments.

But first step should be well established standard medical treatments. People with prostate cancer live many years...some even 15-20 years if treated properly. Get busy reading posts on this forum . It will empower you with lot of knowledge . And you try to support your dad emotionally. Initial 6 months after diagnosis are hardest as word Cancer evokes lot of fear and anxiety.

[Magnus1964]

It would not hurt him but use it with a conventional treatment i.e. radiation etc.

[E2-Guy]

Tried Essiac tea...it did nothing for me.

[lincolnj8]

I went on Zytiga, Lupron, and Prednisone to get the PSA down. I also have stage 4 Pc that has spread to the lymph nodes, bones and organs. You must get the PSA down to survive

[Hidden]

Dear loving Child ,I too was stage #4 at 53 years old almost five years ago . I did all of the alternative med ( Vit-c ivs ) nutrients and holistic diet ..I also did 8 weeks of radiation to the prostate . I was on double adt until orchiectomy . Now I m still on a pill form of adt until it fails . I drank essiac tea amongst various other natural remedies . I feel that the diet helped the most . No processed food or sugar .. I’ve went into remission after radiation . O k . I was non op . I’m saying that stage #4 takes a big hammer to knock down . Do all the natural stuff ,it’s all good . But he needs to get under conventional treatment ASAP . No waiting . Get started . It s worked as well as can be expected for me . Why not him . Do the natural alongside of the dreaded treatments . 60 is young in this game .. With help from above and with good doctors he can live for many years if he takes control now . It’s no cake walk or pleasure cruise. He will be stripped of much . But he can survive this . Love him and stand by him . That is what matters . Ask questions and be his advocate ., you’ve found a great source of support and knowledge here .

[ArpanIndia in reply to Hidden]

Hi Sir,

You are at our father age. Thanks a lot for the info. Today doctor suggest Chemo with ongoing hormone. He getting treatment from best hospital of India. TATA Memorial Mumbai .

Do you any info. That chemo and hormone together?

Is ESSIAC works? As supportive? Please suggest.

[Hidden in reply to ArpanIndia]

It won’t hurt anything. I believe in a holistic diet and nutrition .. chemo and hormone will knock his pc down . He’s going to suffer and needs love and support. He can live . I’m sorry that your father is under the gun.Hang on to your hat and see him thru treatments. Recovery takes time after treatments. If he is able to exercise in any form , walking is good . Lethargy is bad fatigue sets in for many . This will take time to push away . I think Chemo and adt is the best hope . Bless you and you father thru this ordeal . Please let me know how he progresses. Others can help you with tips for dad in Chemo . I’ve yet to have that pleasure . Hang tuff with your father . He can do well with love and support . Many men have lived for decades after worse dx’s.. Lots of prayers 🙏

[ArpanIndia in reply to Hidden]

Hi,

Please suggest what is the best diet at this stage. You told that you have used ESSIAC. Is it beneficial for improvement ? We like to use both conventional treatment and ESSIAC together.

Please suggest.

[Hidden in reply to ArpanIndia]

Naturalpathic will suggest a high alkaline diet mostly plant based . Eliminating all processed food and sugar as well as dairy and animal proteins. It’s ok to cheat once in a while .. If you’re serious contact a natural dr to tailor a Oman for him. We are all different with different co- morbidities.. Most men over 50 Dont or can’t change . I did and I feel it helped me tremendously.. K-2 d-3 , lycopene , calcium boron , magnesium , are just a few nutrients I’ve taken every day for over four years now. I spend $700a month on nutrients . Is it worth it . We believe it is . Only time will tell who’s pathway is correct . Nutrition is a religion . Many can’t follow . It’s up to your pops how he will survive . I lean to the natural always . All treatment diminish us greatly . I think the natural help a bit in counteracting the poison consumed to kill pc . Love your father throughout the suffering . Good luck kid ..

[ArpanIndia in reply to Hidden]

Thank you . I will follow the same . What is your comment for ESSIAC?

Is it helpful ?

[Hidden in reply to ArpanIndia]

We met a young man that works at a German company that produces the tea . He gave us three boxes and I used as prescribed in my initial phase of treatment . I was doing anything natural to help . I went into remission . With all of the natural stuff plus radiation and double adt . Who knows what worked I did so many things . My advice is that the healthier you live the better the chances of survival .

[j-o-h-n]

Get him to a Good Medical Oncologist that specializes in Prostate Cancer. Keep posting here for good information. Let us know what's going on with your Father.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 12/04/2019 7:00 PM EST

[ArpanIndia]

Hi All,

Thank for the support. Monday will be the very 1st day of chemotherapy.

Doc told it's mild chemo. Five consecutive injection will be prescribed for him.

Please suggest how to prepare for chemo.

He took part in a study team. They are examining effect of chemo on human body .

Please suggest.

[Hidden in reply to ArpanIndia]

Best of luck with chemo. 🍀

[Hidden]

He can survive this for many many years . Love and compassion will heal him also . 🤙🏽

[ArpanIndia]

Hi All,

This is fifth day after Chemotherapy.

Loose motion is continuing. Is it a bad sign . What is the remedy of this ?

[bellyhappy58]

I had just finished 6th infusion of docetaxel. Loose motion are common as side effects. Chemo treatment do scare all of us. My experience , it was not as bad. Drink a lot of fluids, rest if you must, eat small meals, walk and exercises as much as you could ( it really helped me a lot ). Usually, Day 4 and 5 are my rough days. After that, it always gets better. God bless

[Hidden]

Hi,

Here's a link to a photocopy of the article published in a 1977 edition of the Canadian Homemakers magazine while Rene Caisse was still alive and Essiac's ingredients were still a secret.

renecaissetea.com/the-origi...

Here's a link to a World Journal of Oncology case report which mentions Essiac.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Kind regards

Dave