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Would you eat deep fried vegan food if it has possibly been fried in oil used to deep fry an animal product? (Say what other is) ๐Ÿ™‚๐ŸŒฑ

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alchemilla12

I'm not vegan but as a vegetarian I voted absolutely not.I was "done out "of chips at the seaside because every where cooked in beef dripping -I asked in about 12 seafront chippies!!

sorry just realised it's not quite what you asked but my answer would still be absolutely not!

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Agoodenough in reply to alchemilla12

Thatโ€™s okay. We always check if chips are fried in beef dripping and like you, would avoid it too ๐Ÿ™‚๐ŸŒฑ

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Ninn

A theoretical answer, as i dont eat fried food, but i am vegan. it wd depend on type of food. frying fat is very hot and shd seal the food, not soak in, so I suppose fish in batter wdnt leave actual fis in the fat. if it was pan fried, no definately not, especially if with meat leaking blood and fat in into the pan.

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Agoodenough in reply to Ninn

Thatโ€™s good that you donโ€™t eat fried food. You are right in theory it shouldnโ€™t soak in. I suppose you could eat something Vegan that has a tang of fish or meat that you wouldnโ€™t like if it was all fried together.

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DS14

I guess it depends on your motive as a vegan. Personally, Its a big no.

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Agoodenough in reply to DS14

Yes thatโ€™s very true.

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Kitten-whiskersAdministrator

Absolutely not, if something isn't labelled Vegan then I stay away. ๐Ÿ˜‰

I was asked the other day if I would eat a vegn burger from KFC or burger king and the answer was NO i wouldn't.

Its a great poll Ali x

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Agoodenough in reply to Kitten-whiskers

Thatโ€™s interesting. I was thinking about this the other day. We used to only be able to get vegan food in health shops or healthy cafes and now everyone does vegan food so itโ€™s a bit tricky to avoid it. The reason I was thinking about it was that I thought I wouldnโ€™t ever go to KFC or McD because of what they stand for and represent but Iโ€™m quite happy to buy my vegetables from sainsburys who also supply meat products and then I got confused with what to think lol ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿคฏ

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Kitten-whiskersAdministrator in reply to Agoodenough

I was thinking that as well, As I go into Costa and have a cup of tea and there vegan tomato and basil soup, and your right the supermarkets as well. Trouble is even health shops have supplements that contain Gelatine or Glycerine.

Even though Veganisium and Animal rights has improved dramatically, we are sadly still in the minority. I have been worrying about all the animals out in this weather and terrible storm coming tomorrow - how many have even given it a second thought x

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Agoodenough in reply to Kitten-whiskers

Thatโ€™s true Debs. At least we are not causing animals to suffer. I have only recently joined fb and have joined a local pet lost and found page and the local animal sanctuary and itโ€™s incredible the good these selfless people do at the sanctuary and the offers of help from people who want to help someone who has lost their dog or cat so I try to dwell more on that side of things and not on the things I canโ€™t control as I think if I let myself think about it all then itโ€™s overwhelming xx

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Kitten-whiskersAdministrator in reply to Agoodenough

Yes, we definately have to do that Ali. I have been bormbarded with loads of animal charities and all the awfullness and it has been overwhelming and makes me miserable.

Thats great what your doing Ali, these people are wonderful

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Agoodenough in reply to Kitten-whiskers

I canโ€™t say itโ€™s easy to get these things out of your mind. Particularly at night but by thinking of the good things is how I cope with it. X

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Kitten-whiskersAdministrator in reply to Agoodenough

Its certainly a challenge, but thats a good way of coping - I have been practising that x

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zube-UK

No, my little family and me would not. What we don't like is the eye rolling and fed up attitude of people serving/cooking the food together with meats and fish, we ask politely. Some restaurants are good but surprisingly few.๐Ÿ™

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Agoodenough in reply to zube-UK

I ordered a plant burger, chips, onion rings and salad (off a vegan menu) in a pub recently and all that turned up was the burger and salad with no dressing. I asked where the rest was and he said you canโ€™t have it if youโ€™re vegan as itโ€™s fried with animal products. ยฃ12.75 I paid for a burger and when I complained they didnโ€™t like it and wouldnt reduce the price! So bad...I was not happy as you can imagine.

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GoGo_JoJo in reply to Agoodenough

๐Ÿ™ˆ then why advertise it!? Some places are just not trying. Others are really making great efforts though, which is nice to see.

Conversely I went to an all out vegan cafe in Southend last weekend and had to laugh when my pal asked for "normal" milk only to discover that they only had plant! Bless her, she is fine with soya and oat and she's changed her diet a lot since my hubby and myself went plant based but it was a funny moment. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜Š

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Agoodenough in reply to GoGo_JoJo

Lol thatโ€™s funny! I think they were being difficult as I said you could do a baked potato or something surely and they said they couldnโ€™t they could only give me more salad, which was very basic. In response to my tripadvisor review they said they would have given me new potatoes had I asked. So ridiculous! How did I know what I should have asked. The annoying thing was the burger was a vegan Mountain Burger and it was delicious. ๐Ÿ˜

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zube-UK in reply to Agoodenough

This happens to us also, it's not acceptable to be charged for items they advertise, the menu could say 'these items not suitable for vegetarians ' but mostly does not, they just roll up to the table with the half empty plate charged at full price. On a happy note, I think things are changing quite quickly now, not long ago a cafe near me did not even know what soya milk is !.. now they have soya, oat and almond milk, and a nice vegi choice and chips cooked separately. ๐Ÿ‘

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Agoodenough in reply to zube-UK

Well that is good and youโ€™re so right. Things are improving in leaps and bounds ๐Ÿ˜

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That's not a very good experience Ali and how dare they charge that much, particularly as they had a vegan menu. The vegan menu should be one where they are complete meals, not leaving certain things off the plate and saying well you're vegan so you can't have them, why bother with a vegan menu. Looks like you won't be going back there even though the burger was delicious, it's the attitude that gets me, we're not aliens and as far as I'm concerned we eat perfectly normal food.

I'm pleased with Bella Italia as if you say you are vegan they say 'no problem, I'll get the vegan menu', the vegan menu is complete i.e. you have a complete meal and you also have a choice of desert as well.

Definitely not Ali. I was in Tesco carrying out my weekly shop today and had to walk past the counter where they sell hot cooked food, I had to rush past as all I could smell was meat, it was awful. This is how sensitive I've become since becoming a Vegan; I cannot stand the smell of cooked pasties/pies etc.

A very good poll and thank you.

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Thatโ€™s a good point. I suppose you do become more sensitive to meat whether raw or cooked. Itโ€™s awful isnโ€™t it. ๐Ÿคข

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Yes I've definitely become more sensitive and with a meat eating hubby it's sometimes quite difficult, he does know I don't like the smell:(. Put me in amongst loads of fruit and vegetables then I'm very happy and of course the aisle where you find all the pulses and spices etc - yummy. :)

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zube-UK in reply to

I read somewhere that having a good sense of smell is an indication of a healthy body and long life, whatever you are doing Alisia, it seems to be working and sounds delicious as well. ๐Ÿ‘

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Well that sounds good to me and I'll take that๐Ÿ‘

I do just about all of my own cooking and live vegan food, I'm not much into pretend meat burgers at all. Bring on a decent delicious chickpea curry.๐Ÿ˜‹

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zube-UK in reply to

Yes, I enjoy doing mostly all my own cooking too, love chicpeas, lentils and black beans. Can I ask if you know what originally led to your IBS? Was it antibiotics? Are you any better now?

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It's good as you know what's in your food. Chickpeas, lentils and black beans yum.

I had food poisoning in 1996 and was diagnosed back then but I had it well under control, I had IBS C i.e. constipation. Fast forward to November 2018 and a bad bout of food poisoning from rice I wasn't getting any better. It turned the IBS on its head and I ended up with diarrhoea and acute nausea daily, it was awful. Many trips to the doctors and many tests and was diagnosed with post infectious IBS. I begged the doctors to refer me to a Dietician and he did. I'm now following the low fodmap diet and it's a life saver, I feel so much better.

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zube-UK in reply to

I'm sorry you have had such nasty food poisoning, rice can be tricky, I find GPs have not had much training on nutrition, mine prescribes prolonged courses of strong antibiotics for my poorly lungs (CF related) I never smoked. The antibiotics play havoc with my gut which is why I'm so interested in probiotics. You seem to be on the right track now with your dietician and low fodmap, well done for finding a diet that is improving IBS, it's great to hear you feel so much better. ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™‚

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Thank you but since following this diet the symptoms from the food poisoning have now disappeared and I feel so so much better now. I have to say it's put me off rice for good, it wasn't something I cooked myself as I bought a ready made 'healthy' lunch pot and it's obvious now that the rice had probably not been stored at the correct temperature i.e. not cool enough. I did write to the company and they were very good but I still won't but the pot ever again. I totally agree with you regarding nutrition and that GPs are not knowledgeable enough and I see what you have said above regarding strong antibiotics, they don't seem to know the correlation between antibiotics and IBS and other tummy disorders. I'm so sorry you have poorly lungs, that must be so awful, particularly when you can't breathe properly.

Probiotics and probiotic foods are moving at quite a pace now and that, as far as I can see it, is definitely a good thing. I do think doctors now need to be trained in alternatives like nutrition and other diet related illnesses. The Dietician I saw is lovely and she explained the diet to me when I was there but it's quite a complicated diet but I'm getting my head round which group of foods belong to which letter i.e. fodmap, the O being - Oligosaccharides Fructans and Galacto-oligosaccharides: Wheat, rye, barley, onions, leek, shallots, white part of spring onion, garlic, legumes, lentils, artichokes, chicory. it's quite surprising what foods contain the above ingredients i.e. some plant milks contain chicory.

This is a diet that I will definitely be continuing as I feel so much better.

I really hope you find a probiotic that works for you.

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zube-UK in reply to

It's well impressive that you've got your head round fodmap, I can understand lentils and beans causing problems but who would think the white part of leeks and spring onions are troublesome too, now I see why you use garlic infused oil, it's so complicated. I use chicory sometimes instead of coffee to reduce gallstone risk, coffee has compounds in it which squeeze the gallbladder, chicory is a fodmap no no!

What a pity that lunch pot you had caused such a problem, I cook rice often, brown basmati with a spoonful of sesame seeds cooked in, nice flavour and bit more nutrients, a Japanese woman suggested it to me. I like white rice sometimes or mixed.

I'm allways trying to increase my alkaline food intake because of lung infections - virus and bad bacteria can not thrive in a healthy alkaline body, so that's plenty of fresh veg and fruit, a vegetarian or vegan life but the question for me is, can I get enough protein to support my fight with lung infection. Like you have done I must find the right balance, and do probiotics hold the key to b12, I'm really interested in that, it's said there is b12 in kombucha, helps us to produce our own b12. I am still slightly anaemic.

Susi ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™‚

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I'm so glad I'm following the diet.m, I'm so much better. Yes the are many things on the diet you cant have and inulin is another. I use the green part if leeks and spring onions but dont know what to do with the rest so I froze them. Oh yes chicory is definitely a no no but of course I may be able to tolerate it once I start reintroducing more foods.

I love the sound of what you do with basmati rice, I bet that tastes lovely.

If you go online and type in plant based protein you'd be surprised what you can find. I eat Quinoa and I'm pretty sure that has protein. You can get protein powder. As for B12, I've recently learnt that those who eat meat get B12 from the meat but its synthetic B12 as there's no longer B12 in the soil, it's because we're too clean and are chlorinating everything so there's no longer any natural B12.

I like kombucha so must have a go at making my own.

Here's to better health for you.

Take care

Alicia xx

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zube-UK in reply to

Thanks Alisia, I do like quinoa, it's so versatile and I've also read about synthetic b12 in supermarket meats, poor animals.

B12 seems to be a lot about what we can absorb in our gut, I blame antibiotics for damaging my gut causing the shortfall, not the vegetarian diet and it has inspired me to hear how well you are doing now, yey, good health ahead Alisia.

Susi xx ๐Ÿ˜Š

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I really enjoy Quinoa and agree that it's very versatile, I tend to put Chinese 5 Spice, Paprika, Turmeric, Black pepper, Tamari sauce and a little sweetener in mine when I cook it. I use either Stevia or a little maple syrup for sweetening as I find I need that with the Chinese 5 Spice and Turmeric although I think I'll add some Cinnamon as I probably won't need any sweetener then.

Agree re B12 and as the articles have said they've been too clinical by adding Chlorine to everything and getting rid of the good bacteria that's needed. I totally agree with you re antibiotics, they ruin a good gut. Yes I'm doing really well now thank you, I feel a lot better, almost like I was before the food poisoning.

Alicia xx :)

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zube-UK in reply to

What a fabulous mix of spices and I use Tamari a lot, yes that would be lovely, I will be using your good mix next time. Have you tried sweet cicely herb to add slight sweetness to both savoury and sweets? I grow it, it is a tonic for chest, asthma, cough etc., a blood purifier so adds a bit of goodness. If cooking rhubarb, add 3 chopped up leaves/fronds no sugar needed then. ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™‚

in reply to zube-UK

It's a mix I had again tonight and added cinnamon which was lovely.

Ooh I've not heard of cicely herb, I'm going to look for that, thank you.๐Ÿ™ Aloso even better that it's good for you.๐Ÿ˜Š

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zube-UK in reply to

Ahh, cinnamon with all the mix, I have put it in my recipe folder, great, looking forward to that tomorrow.

I grow the cicely, my sister is a retired registered medical herbalist, she gave me a spare root, it's very pretty. There will be someone on eBay selling the plants or seeds I'm sure, or a plant nursery, it is a perennial.

Having some steamed veg with the quinoa tomorrow, and watercress soup first. Thanks for the tips Alisia, you are very inspirational. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘

in reply to zube-UK

I'll get some cicely online and give that a go, it'll be going on my windowsill at home in the kitchen.

in reply to zube-UK

I've just been looking online, do you buy the cicely herb dried ir do you have a plant? Also, where do you get it?

Thank you๐Ÿ™

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GoGo_JoJo

If I was out with others and the only options on the menu were fried foods, I would. I usually research menus of places before I go but obviously it's not always that cut and dried, especially if someone else has chosen the venue.

It would still be plant based food, I just can't control how it's cooked and so am not contributing to animal products.

I don't go to places like KFC (haven't for a long, long time since I actually kept my own chickens) or McD. I did try the BK bean burger which was really disappointing at a service station early on in our transition but even then it was more a need must situation, trying to make the best of a bad thing.

It's true, we still buy our food from supermarkets that still sell the products that we're avoiding. We can all really only make the personal call in any individual situation at the time.

My friends are usually good with my venue recommendations but it's not fair for them not to get to choose too, so sometimes I have to work with what I'm faced with rather than what I'd like. We're out on Weds for lunch but fortunately the pub has a few vegan options that are pretty good. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

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Agoodenough in reply to GoGo_JoJo

Thanks for your contribution GoGo_JoJo. Yes it can be tricky canโ€™t it. Especially in social situations.