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I’m 6 months post transplant and am taking tube following medication: Adavagraf, Predisilone, Omeprazle and Lamavudin. My question is has anyone ever eaten pasteurised oven baked Camaberet cheese?
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Cheese or cheat?!
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Morgen,
Nobody said no but I would check with the transplant coordinators, I take it that is not your breakfast plan? These meds do funny things to our taste buds. I am just over 4 months post transplant.
Mark
I wouldn't chance it just yet ... I waited a year before having runny eggs it was worth the wait... I think it's best just to give your body more time but it's your body and up to you
Hi jojo. I was told that I could have runny eggs as long as they had the lion stamp on them (and I have had, many times). Also I could have smoked salmon if I had it straight away from the opened pack but I couldn't have any more from that pack even if it was only one hour later. It was the same no no for blue cheese though and live yogurts. Alf
Different advice from different hospitals 😊
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Good to know about the smoked salmon Alf. I've been craving an eggs royale for ages but kept forgetting to ask at the liver clinic.
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I was just told avoid anything live, i.e unpasteurised. Guess the side effects bit should be accompanied by a diet sheet???? Another quick question, why do we always open the tablet box with the instructions facing?
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Same here but the body adjusts to it with time. Lost count of the times last year I'd get the runs when the egg was just a little too runny or steak just a bit too rare 😷. This year has been fine 😊. If something happens after eating smoked salmon, I'll just blame Alfred's liver team 😉
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Just avoid the aerobics sheet ☃️
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I've had smoked salmon at least 3 times since transplant and I have been fine but I've always followed their instructions and used it out of the freshly opened pack and then no more.
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Well I've never tried smoking salmon but I think since we now have legalized marijuana I'll start with that first. But glad you have had a good experience after 3 times.
Lol sorry Alfred I couldn't help myself 😊
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Mentioning the weed, does it show in any of our bloods? I wonder what our consultants views are? As an alcoholic in recovery would they deem it unwise for me to partake? And yes I did have baked Camembert and delicious it was 👌🏼
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It's an interesting question poobear. It does def show up in blood work. As far as the consultants I guess it depends which one you talk to. Most will say that anyone who was addicted to any substance should not do any kind of drug or alcohol. I dont actually smoke weed but I think it really boils down to how well you know yourself and if it would become a problematic habit. As far as its effects on people with liver disease I have seen it argued both ways but I think there is a lack of proper testing and studies done on it. Now that Canada has legalized it we have started to see alot more factual and authentic studies being done. Prior to that we had the 2 normal junk sciences. The first being avid potsmokers who would claim that weed will heal and cure cancer and solve all things in the world. And the second being the stern conservative health lobby stating that it is going to turn every user into a homeless aggressive heroin addict with the mental capacity of toast. Lmao
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Thanks fella. You make some interesting points. I’m in outpatients club nick next eeek so I guess I’ll be honest and speak to my call nsultant.
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That would be the best poobear. Its always best to tell them the truth of things. Even if they judge you for your choice FU*k 'em. They still have to be professional and give you truthful answers. If you feel your consultant is ever giving you a biased answer than always get a second opinion. There is no shortage of doctors who give biased opinions and frankly that's unprofessional. If there opinion isnt coming from a place of scientific proof than it's no more useful than it would be coming from any layman on the street.
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I think your custom’s officers were smoking it when they arrested the Huawei CFO, don’t drink the stock.
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It's an interesting case for sure Snoutie. Its always interesting to see how much more proverbial media tripe there is to sift through in high profile cases before we can sit and look at the facts of a case. Unfortunately since most of the common public only seems to reads the first 3 sentences of a news paper article..The relay of partially understood information extrapelated from an already misinformed source just spreads like plague through social medias. It never ceases to amaze me how never before have we had such easy access to things like case files and documentations of court proceedings that become available to public domain and yet so many people just cant be bothered to educate themselves on the facts. They instead are humble spreading snipits of the partial truth to friends and family in a fashion that takes that humble ignorance to the full definition of hubris. Everyone wants to be a public figure these days. The media knows it and arms the public with the ammunition to do so and sits back and watches it ignite the cyber space.
I was fortunate to come across a very prominent Canadian criminal lawyer some years back and he's kept me under his wing as pupil ever since. I wish I hadn't taken so much time off from it but I finally have gotten back to studying and preparing for the LSAT test. I'm a bit older than most applying for law school now but in a way I see it as an advantage academically. Life experience is not something 19 year olds have much of and I believe I have a passion for the study that they havent yet the life time to realize. Not to mention that if we really separated those applicants who love the study of law from the gilded pups who are applying solely on the direction of their well to do fathers then a clearer line in the sand could be seen as to who really thrives and who doesnt lol!
I was told to avoid any blue cheese, so no Stilton, Shropshire Blue, (my favourite), Danish Blue or Gorgonzola. Now is the time when you realise just how much you miss it. Why do we always fancy the things we can't have?
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Thanks for your reply Richard, appreciated. It’s really confusing as I had a year to research all the do’s and dont’s. I have asked other transplanted and they’ve told me that they gave and do? I’ve asked transplant coordinators and even they have different views? I think I’ll stick to cheddar!
alfredthegreat in reply to
Oh! how I miss my blue cheese with Garner shallots!! As you say missed at this time of year!, Alf
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It is the ultimate question. I often find my mind asking myself the same question. The second question I always ask myself is why are all things we cant have the things that are bad for us. When thinking to myself and the notion of God I always giggle when I ponder how water was the greatest thing he could come up with as a liquid. A mouth equipped with so many taste buds and water, The liquid of life and it tastes like that? Couldn't taste like purple kool aid or Dr.pepper or even better a fine aged cabernet? Blue cheese The greatest cheese on earth and a no no for the liver. Rare beef tenderloin and it's the meat on the no no list. But bland chicken is ok? If the mind is created with the component to feel content relaxed and happy then why cant water do it for us. Why is the only liquid that does that cause liver disease? Oh the complaints Id have if the guy upstairs turned out to be real. Oh the complaints. I'd also take a vote to see who is in favour of new management. 😅
Yes my husband is 7 months post transplant & we eat it a lot
Most cheeses in the UK are pasteurised the one that tends to not be is Parmesan with D.O.P or buffalo mozerella
Hubby was only restricted for the 1st 3 months after transplant to stop any incidents of food poisoning occurring due to lack of immune system which meant no rare steaks (salmonella/ecoli risk), but a beefburger or sausage posses a greater risk than a steak as all the bacteria on a steak is on the outside where as in a burger or sausage it is mixed up throughout until cooked, unpasteurised cheeses & yoghurt run the risk of listeria as it can develop under 5C in the fridge, for the same reason was not allowed to eat from a hot buffet until reached 6 months due to the risk of salmonella & the temperature of the food not being above 63C
Red Lion eggs are vaccinated against salmonella
Hi
I was also only restricted for first 6 months i now eat everything at home but do avoid street food ie burger vans etc and only use 5star hygiene eateries but I believe we should all do that
Enjoy
All cheeses made with pasteurised milk are ok.
I am 13 months post and regularly eat cheese including camembert with no ill effects.
The main reason we have to be careful with certain cheese is because of listeria, it makes us more prone to serious infections including meningitis
