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Just wondering am I ok to eat liquorice sweets with HF

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Lezzers

Liquorice is a bit dodgy with heart failure & some heart meds. I believe it raises BP, can cause palpitations & increase potassium, amongst other things. Do you have a heart nurse you can ask or maybe phone the BHF nurses?

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Sanpedro2019 in reply to Lezzers

Thank you will phone them tomorrow

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Lezzers in reply to Lezzers

Oops, I think it decreases potassium not increase it!, sorry

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MichaelJHHeart Star

Occasional small amounts are probably OK but larger amounts can increase blood pressure and cause irregular heart rhythms. Here's the NHS link: nhs.uk/common-health-questi...

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Sanpedro2019 in reply to MichaelJH

Thank you

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willsie01 in reply to MichaelJH

Michael, via the link: “...you should avoid eating large amounts of black liquorice over a short space of time...”.

This advice is not greatly helpful IMHO. What is a “large amount”? Is the implication that a “small amount”, whatever that is, over a “short space of time” or maybe a “long period of time”, would be ok? I hope there’s guidance with greater clarity.

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply to willsie01

Because people vary vastly in fitness, weight, constitution and individual response there is no right answer. The only thing I have seen suggests two ounces per day for a fortnight would cause issues with BP, heart rhythm and potassium levels. To further complicate things Mr Bassett has lots of sugary add ons rather than pure liquorice. I would say a couple of sweets a day providing there is no AF or signs thereof would be fine. But have a couple of "dry" days per week.

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willsie01 in reply to MichaelJH

Mmmm...in those circumstances I would do as others have said and abstain completely rather than be rationed to a couple of sweets a day, a few days a week. I'm not someone who can ration myself with treats. I stay away from them then, occasionally, scoff a packet of them.

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willsie01 in reply to MichaelJH

Still, it's good to have learned the dangers of liquorice :)

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SpiritoftheFloyd

Well I never knew that!

Looks like Bertie Bassett won't be paying a visit to my house any time soon.

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Lezzers in reply to SpiritoftheFloyd

Stick with gin!! X

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SpiritoftheFloyd in reply to Lezzers

Been warned off gin as well! Seen my HF nurse on Tuesday and mentioned that I woke up in the night occasionally with cramp in my legs- She suggested Fever Tree tonic water (without the gin)!

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Lezzers in reply to SpiritoftheFloyd

In consolation the tonic water is very nice.

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SpiritoftheFloyd in reply to Lezzers

Not really a fan of tonic water, but prepared to give it a go if it stops me waking up in the middle of the night feeling like a sumo wrestler has been sitting on my legs

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bee2 in reply to SpiritoftheFloyd

Tonic water can cause heart rhythm disturbances too. 😥

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SpiritoftheFloyd in reply to bee2

So it can, that's something else I've learnt this week 😢😢

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thehypnotist in reply to SpiritoftheFloyd

Schweppes brand also has Quinine in it. Some types don't and it's that which can help with cramps.

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Fredders

I love liquorice but am on warfarin now so told I shouldn’t eat it, although the nurse said I could have the occasional piece! As if I could do that - get the taste of soft liquorice and I could eat the whole packet, so better off steering clear of it altogether ☹️

Wendy

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Scho1

Hi, I was advised by my cardiologist many years ago not to eat liquorice as it depleted potassium levels, vital to the heart.

I have high blood pressure and told not to touch it as it put bp up.

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CraftyGirl72

I love all the random stuff you learn here! Not once have I been given any advice about what I should or shouldn't do/eat other than stay a healthy weight and exercise regularly as the drugs made me so ill. I'm slim & run regularly so was a bit stable door...

I am dairy intolerant so don't eat all the usual pleasures... chocolate, ice cream, cream cakes etc but give me a box of liquorice anythings & I am quiet till its done! Whoops! Looks like HF takes even that small pleasure from me now! Grrrrr....

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Cober

I was admitted with AF and was assessed if I ate lots of liquorice (along with other things of course)as it can trigger AF if you eat lots

Guess it goes with those with those useful terms

a little of what you fancy ....and in moderation......

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tunybgur

Liquorice is one of my Afib triggers, but we're all different, just a heads up though.

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45sue

I like licorice too! Am beginning to learn the number of things that don't combine with HF & the meds e.g found that the remedy I bought for a terrible cold was contraindicated. We really do need to be given more comprehensive info at the start.

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Alison_L in reply to 45sue

I got hot flushes when I was first put on all the meds after my HA, so I reached for the Oil of Evening Primrose tablets that had served me so well through my menopause... only to find that, no, I can longer take those :(

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tunybgur in reply to 45sue

Phenylephrine hydrochloride is a key ingredient in cold and flu remedies (lemsip etc) and can cause heart arrhythmias. It is another of my Afib triggers....works every time :-(

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply to tunybgur

Cold and flu remedies are best avoided by hearties and anyone with BP issues as they can out up BP - a side effect they don't tell you about!

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2stents

I had no idea about liquorice

A little late to reply to this but have only just read the thread.

No one has mentioned about common sense or a little of what you fancy does you good - or should I say can do you good. One piece of liquorice surely won't kill you, just as one boiled sweet or one piece of chocolate. It's when the one becomes a binge where the packet or bar goes and if that's the case, then unfortunately the best idea would be to forgo the treat altogether, as a former smoker or drinker has to accept as a fact of life.

If people who are recovering from a heart issue have been advised about exercise and weight levels, surely sweets would be a treat anyway - to be enjoyed at Christmas maybe?

The question of sweets is not an issue with me since I am diabetic and even one bit can have phenomenal effect on my blood sugar levels.

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