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AHi I am taking taking bisoprolol fumarate 1.25mg now. I used to go for a run everyday. Can I continue? Will it cause any trouble?

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Since you are here on the AF site one must presume that you have AF and are taking bisoprolol to control your heart rate? Exercise is good but in moderation and it is said one should be able to do it and talk at the same time.

Since bisoprolol will slow you down is is important so listen to your body and not try to push beyond what it says it is happy with.

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Mummy-pig in reply to BobD

Gp saw my ekg report and said it looks like af and I'm referring you to cardio. Is that the final diagonised result or will they confirm after my specialist appointment? Because I'm getting counseling for my health anxiety as well. Please clarify

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Mummy-pig

AF is easliy seen on an ECG due to lack of P wave which is distinctive. Cardiolgist will no doubt carry out or request additional tests such as echocardiogram (Ultra sound video of your heart ) to check there are no mechanical issues and that your problems are merely electrical. AF is not considered life threatening by the way though many think it feels that way.

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Mummy-pig in reply to BobD

What is electrical problem. Can u explain?

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Mummy-pig

I'll try.

Your heart is driven by electricity. There is an area called the AV Node which is in the right atrium (top chamber) which starts things off. An electical pulse is sent to the left atrium (top left chamber) which causes the muscle to contract and push blood down through the mitral valve into the left ventricle (lower chamber) .An electical signal follows it. This then causes the ventricle to contract and push blood out into the aorta (main artery) and then round your body. When the blood has done its job it returns to the right atrium, down into the right ventricle and is then pumped round your lungs to re-oxygenate it before starting again in the left atrium.

Still with me or are you asleep?

With AF, chaotic electrical signals appear in the left atrium causing it to writhe like a bag of worms rather than contract in a regular manner and many of these contractions send signals to the ventricle which then pumps in a rapid and irregular manner Hence atrial fibrillation.

There is a lot of information on AF Association main website if that doesn't help.

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Mummy-pig in reply to BobD

Great stuff.. 🙏 I'm relieved a bit. I'll update after my cardiac appointment.. also can u tell me will this Af happen because of health anxiety(started after my mom's death due to cancer)..?

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Mummy-pig

Anything is possible. AF happens and doesn't need a reason. . If you a re pre disposed to it anything from alcohol, inflamation. sugar, you name it can trigger an event. Many people spend half their lives trying to find triggers and if lucky enough may be able to limit their AF burden. Stress can play and important role as can being overwight. Over exercise (endurance athletes etc) can also do it.

Bottom line is if your body is built in such a way you will have AF. If it isn't then you won't. You obviously are one of the "lucky" ones to join our far from exclusive club. (1.5 million members in UK alone. )

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Mummy-pig in reply to BobD

Yes.. that's right. I hope I'll be the lucky one.. the last trigger was from my gp telling me about my diagonised result..because I don't like taking tablet since I'm already taking too much tablets for epilepsy and thyroid.I really wish the doctor should say that i don't ve any heart problem..

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v1v1enne in reply to Mummy-pig

I have been taking 1.25mg Bisoprolol for 8 years and exercise regularly, I am 71. I have not had any adverse reactions during or after aerobic or strength exercises in all those years.

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Mummy-pig in reply to v1v1enne

That's great to hear.. this chat making me feel better day by day seriously.. when I am doing exercise I've been so conscious not to go beyond 150..I can do any running confidently not thinking about the heat rate..? Am I right? From your experience

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Mummy-pig

Yes. But I'm just beginner in running and started running from last month and I was feeling really good without any palpitations. . I am getting counseling for my health anxiety. On the day of ekg I got so much palpitations. But after removing that I didn't have any palpitations. Dr asked me take bisoprolol after seeing my result of ekg. And now I'm scared to go for a run. I'm referred to cardio now.

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Kellylou1712 in reply to Mummy-pig

Hello, I have just stared Bisoprolol 1.25mg and like you I have just recently began to run. Taking the bisopropol adds a new dynamic for me in terms of myEndurance, I find it’s tough to begin with but then I can get a good rhythm. I do watch my heart rate on my smart watch so when I’ve been pressing (I switch between walking and jogging) I do take some time to check it isn’t too high and switch to a fast past walk to allow it to come down a little, I never get to the point where I can’t talk but this is easier said than done when you’re normally a bit of a couch potato!

I tried to research this and I read somewhere that we should try to aim for around 20 beats lower than our max recommended (there is a calculation online for this - it’s to do with age!)

Best of luck with your running. I believe that if you’re doing too much or going about it all the wrong way your body will alert you and you can adjust accordingly!

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Mummy-pig in reply to Kellylou1712

Thx a lot..😀👍I m 33 and I mostly do till 185bpm. I'll reduce to 150.. hope that's perfect and I'll try today

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saulger in reply to Mummy-pig

Hello Mummy. The approximate formula for max HR is 220 - age. But, for steady state exercise, such as lengthy running, I use just 65% of my maximum = 0.65 x (220 - 33 your age) = 121.A more detailed formula:

active.com/fitness/articles...

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Foxey2

Is check with your GP or cardiologist first, I’m 49, been running cycling most of my life and was diagnosed with AFib in April this year, I’ve been told by my cardiologist not to run or cycle until he gives me the all clear after my ablation, so it’s not always recommended

You should try and see what happens. Running problems are not cited here as a possible side effect. webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1420...

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Mummy-pig

Thx to you guys.. finally I exercised after a week (combination of both walk and run and tried to keep max of 150bpm.) sometimes my heart rate went to 185 as well but I don't seem to find any problem today.. anyhow like everyone said I'll reduce to 120 to 150..since I don't ve any problem even my heart rate went to 185.is that mean I don't ve any major problem?

Sorry if I sound silly..

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mav7

You don't mention your age, but if you are older (60+) a brisk walk will derive the same benefits for your physical and mental health.

I say that as a former runner who had to adjust due to AF.

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Mummy-pig

Hi guys.. today morning I had my shortness of breath which is bearable (as I am wearing a thick mask) comes on and off.I didn't go for a walk or any exercise today but why I'm getting this even after I had my tablets.. I'm so worried and I don't wanna go to emergency since they ll not do anything other than taking a lot of blood tests.. can u guys help me.. its this a normal side effects after taking medicine..?like BobD said I'm trying to figure out but couldn't

Hello, Mummy-angel (I do not like the "pig", lol)! So sorry that you are suffering at such a young age! You mentioned thyroid problems, but did not say in what direction. I am certain that you are hypothyroid, and if you confirm that I am right, I could give you some useful advise...

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Mummy-pig in reply to

Ha ha.. my hypothyroid is in control now and I'm waiting for my echo test. I feel like after taking this bisoprolol I'm having shortness of breath..I couldn't differentiate is this because of my anxiety or bisoprolol..

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So, I was right that you are hypo... There are two things you should definitely avoid - running and bisoprolol. I can not give you the explanation, but the advise is given with the best of intention!

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Do you have hypothyroidism? Why do you think Bisoprolol is contraindicated?

I along with many others with hypothyroidism have taken Bispoprolol without issues.

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No, not hypo, I am still in zero condition. I was researching this area for over 12 years, so partly oriented.

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You cannot say "definitely avoid Bispoprolol" as there is no reason to avoid it, as I said many of us are prescribed it and it works very well.

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Well, so take it... Who is preventing you...?

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I do take it but why are you saying it must be avoided, what is the reason ?

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cam5961 in reply to bantam12

Bisoprolol works for some but with me it destroyed my health to the point I was going to give up work but after many months I persuaded my cardiologist to change to Verapamil and the result was instant but the damage to my health will never fully recover.

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bantam12 in reply to cam5961

Of course it works for some and not others, that's true of any medication.

My question to SteelHeart was why he believes it should definitely be avoided in people with hypothyroidism, he gives no reason.

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Sean_C

I have been on 1.25 (started on 2.5 but it dropped my HR too much) Bisoprolol for about 4 years and have continued to run and cycle throughout. Take it real easy to start with and listen to your body. Different people can react differently.

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