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It has been mentioned on another post about “an early morning protein breakfast” with helps with fatigue.

Does anyone have the recipe for this? I have searched on here but can’t find an actual recipe. Be grateful to have it and give it a try due to feeling awful in the mornings especially upon waking.

Thanks 🙏

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Alanna012 profile image
Alanna012

I assume it means eating some form of protein - eggs, bacon, sausages, kippers, sardines, a protein based shake, or some form of dinner left overs as opposed to an actual recipe.

I'm currently munching on yesterday's leftover spare ribs😳☺️

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greygoose in reply to Alanna012

Nothing like left-overs for breakfast! :)

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FallingInReverse

I posted something once about being tired, puffy eyes, taking a long time to feel awake upon waking, and it was suggested I check my cortisol. Diet is helpful but often these things have a hormonal root cause.

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greygoose in reply to FallingInReverse

It's not a question of diet, as such. It's about giving tired adrenals a good start to the day. To help them make more hormone. (NB doesn't work with thyroid.)

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Alanna012 in reply to greygoose

Yes for many years I skipped breakfast - not intentionally, I just had no eating urge, and was dealing with low gut motility, low stomach acid - and sometimes lunch as well. Unbeknownst to me I was in a vicious circle of low metabolic state with the effect of not wanting food and thus depriving myself of vitamins throughout the day, whilst also struggling to extract those few vitamins I did get.

At the time I was very unbothered and pleased with my ultra thinness....

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greygoose in reply to Alanna012

Yup, same here. Although it didn't make any difference to my weight! So, now I'm retired, I've solved that problem by getting up around 11 o'clock and having brunch: killing two birds with one stone, you could say. :)

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Alanna012 in reply to greygoose

That's excellent, really clever! It can be challenging to eat breakfast then find something suitable for lunch. By the time dinner comes my appetite is very on the wane!

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PRJ20

Hi MW, Since I saw this article in The Guardian 👇

theguardian.com/food/2024/j...

one of my favourites is avocado with either boiled or poached egg with some of those baby plum tomatoes.

Whatever, as the article states: "[Inchauspé] swears by a savoury breakfast to keep energy levels steady throughout the day. The key thing is to make protein the main ingredient, not sugar or starch. Eggs, Greek yoghurt, cream cheese, meat or tofu should keep you full for four hours. Add fat (avocado, chia or flax seeds, olive oil to scramble the eggs) and fibre (spinach, tomatoes or mushrooms) where possible.", which confirms what   Alanna012 states about being best to start with protein and savoury based.

However, as  FallingInReverse points out: "Diet is helpful but often these things have a hormonal root cause" and, I would also add the caveat that also your core vitamins being out of balance or depleted can be another cause. So, obvious question is, when were your most recent blood tests? 🙂

ETA: Apologies, just looked on your profile page and seen that your most recent blood tests were 21 days ago and were out so, not sure whether you're also needing a dose adjustment or are in the midst of one.

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greygoose in reply to PRJ20

Well, we were talking about addrenals and cortisol when I mentioned high protein breakfasts, so all this has got a bit twisted out of shape.

But, I would add to that article that butter is a very good source of fat, and the best thing to go with eggs. And I cut out the tofu! Unfermented soy!

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PRJ20 in reply to greygoose

I didn't see the other discussion you refer to GG (or if I did, I've forgotten it in amongst the fog!...grief/hypo/fibro/age/everything else fog 😝) and was just quoting (or misquoting?) Alanna. But, yes, I get your drift and stand corrected. 🙃😃

ETA: Oh and btw, I agree with the rest, too, I just missed out that I have mine (when I have that) with gluten free toast spread with Olive Spread or Butter, and no Tofu in sight!! 😃

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greygoose in reply to PRJ20

No offence intended. :)

This is the thread:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

I'm not quite sure how the confusion arose. But it needs sorting immediately before it escalates into another wide-spread myth. We have quite enough of those already! I'm the last person to believe that food solves everything - let food be your medicine, and all that - or that there are any super-foods. But we need food for energy and that's one of the things that is lacking in adrenal fatigue. But that's all I was talking about: Adrenal Fatigue. :)

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PRJ20 in reply to greygoose

No offence taken at all GG and I'll look at that thread when I get back (about to go out to get some ☀️ on my weary old bones), as I'm fairly certain I suffer from adrenal fatigue that would benefit from this. 🙂

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Alanna012 in reply to PRJ20

Which Olive Spread is this? An occasional.departure from butter would be nice!

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MsWhistledown in reply to PRJ20

Thanks PRJ20. The article is really interesting. Has some good alternatives food wise for me. I am a cereal person due to just needing to get going quickly in the morning to get to work but realise this probably isn’t doing me any favours now I have Hashimoto’s and I suspect my adrenals aren’t functioning particularly well. Next blood test is in June before my appointment with private doctor who has picked up on my previous results showing low vitamin D and Ferritin levels. I’ll be testing them as well. Been working on improving them.

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greygoose

I did not say it was for 'fatigue', I said Adrenal Fatigue. Not the same thing.

And Alanna012 is right, there isn't an actual recipe - maybe I worded that wrong, should have said 'a high protein breakfast, rather than 'the' - it's just about have a source of high protein rather than just toast or cereal. :)

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MsWhistledown in reply to greygoose

Sorry if my post has caused confusion! I should have included adrenal fatigue into the post! Not just fatigue. Appreciate all the advice and examples of what I could do for my breakfast. I am a porridge or cereal kind of person (gluten free). Due to having to get up early and get to work the thought of cooking something more savoury has always put me off. But I shall have to try and add in some protein.

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greygoose in reply to MsWhistledown

Cheese, ham or other charcuterie, hard boiled eggs cooked the night before? :)

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MsWhistledown in reply to greygoose

Really good ideas! Thanks greygoose. 🙂

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greygoose in reply to MsWhistledown

You're welcome. :)

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