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Revised Plot of PSA vs Testosterone: Estrogen vs Lupron ADT
Ugh...I made a BIG mistake on the previous posting! I just realized that Dr. Morgentaler had listed the Testosterone level in unusual units (
ng/mL
), not the usual units of (
ng/dL)
. So, my X-axis was off by a factor of 10. Here is the revised plot. The exciting discovery is that the
Ugh...I made a BIG mistake on the previous posting! I just realized that Dr. Morgentaler had listed the Testosterone level in unusual units (
ng/mL
), not the usual units of (
ng/dL)
. So, my X-axis was off by a factor of 10. Here is the revised plot. The exciting discovery is that the
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
ADT response and questions for MO
Hi, I am newish to this forum, still on a steep learning curve but I want to thank you for your contributions and discussions. This is my first time posting. My partner is 60 yrs old, as I understand it he had low PSA 3 yrs ago, not tested until Nov 2023, PSA50, stage 4, 1 met in 'sit' bone. Started
Hi, I am newish to this forum, still on a steep learning curve but I want to thank you for your contributions and discussions. This is my first time posting. My partner is 60 yrs old, as I understand it he had low PSA 3 yrs ago, not tested until Nov 2023, PSA50, stage 4, 1 met in 'sit' bone. Started
Lovecherries
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
One questions doctors never seem to be able to answer is at what PSA level do you start to experience pain or physical problems?
One questions doctors never seem to be able to answer is at what PSA level do you start to experience pain or physical problems? If you have had surgery, Salvage Radiation, ADT, SRBT and then stopped ADT with a continuing rise in you PSA when did you start to have pain or physical problems?
One questions doctors never seem to be able to answer is at what PSA level do you start to experience pain or physical problems? If you have had surgery, Salvage Radiation, ADT, SRBT and then stopped ADT with a continuing rise in you PSA when did you start to have pain or physical problems?
Exrunner
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Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
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Declining psa #9
Gm folks, hope all are having a wonderful New Year. I’m following up n giving results on using ivermectin, cbd oil, turmeric Vit b3,6,12 Vit c And zinc solely after eliminating ADT after 7 months, post Rp n rad… Psa dropped another .29 points to .66 down from .95 n psa was hovering 7 when I first got
Gm folks, hope all are having a wonderful New Year. I’m following up n giving results on using ivermectin, cbd oil, turmeric Vit b3,6,12 Vit c And zinc solely after eliminating ADT after 7 months, post Rp n rad… Psa dropped another .29 points to .66 down from .95 n psa was hovering 7 when I first got
Nfler
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Advanced Prostate Cancer
4 months ago
Enzalutamide vs Lupron Survival
This shows the main results of the EMBARK trial, comparing Metatasis Free Survival and PSA Recurrence Free Survival for three groups: Enzalutamide only, Lupron only, or combined Enzalutamide + Lupron. The best survivals were for the combination of Enzalutamide + Lupron. Enzalutamide is a 2nd generation
This shows the main results of the EMBARK trial, comparing Metatasis Free Survival and PSA Recurrence Free Survival for three groups: Enzalutamide only, Lupron only, or combined Enzalutamide + Lupron. The best survivals were for the combination of Enzalutamide + Lupron. Enzalutamide is a 2nd generation
janebob99
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Prostate Cancer Network
3 months ago
Pfizer and Astellas' XTANDI® Approved by U.S. FDA in Earlier Prostate Cancer Treatment Setting
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pfizer-and-astellas-xtandi-approved-by-us-fda-in-earlier-prostate-cancer-treatment-setting-301991574.html
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pfizer-and-astellas-xtandi-approved-by-us-fda-in-earlier-prostate-cancer-treatment-setting-301991574.html
Maxone73
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
6 months ago
În panica again
Hello, everybody! Wishing you a happy and bright spring! I need you expertise and oppinions again. My father is taking Xtandy for over 1.2 years and lately psa started to grow, I attached his psa situation since january 2022. I read about Xtandy here all the time. It never worked so good for him, I
Hello, everybody! Wishing you a happy and bright spring! I need you expertise and oppinions again. My father is taking Xtandy for over 1.2 years and lately psa started to grow, I attached his psa situation since january 2022. I read about Xtandy here all the time. It never worked so good for him, I
tuta1960
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
Pluvicto Question
Just had third Pluvicto in fusion and Spect scan today and got results. Not sure what this means. If the findings are similar compared to the last scan why does this indicate"technically successful" therapy. Also PSA went down just slightly after infusion number two but went up a little from PSA after
Just had third Pluvicto in fusion and Spect scan today and got results. Not sure what this means. If the findings are similar compared to the last scan why does this indicate"technically successful" therapy. Also PSA went down just slightly after infusion number two but went up a little from PSA after
spencoid2
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
Been on Firmagon with Zytiga and Prednisone PSA rising, what can I do next?
Information in Bio Hoping to try a PARP inhibitor or Provenge perhaps, I don’t know much about this, but my medical oncologist keeps mentioning pluvicto, I’m not interested in doing that yet. Information from Bio below: Diagnosed 07/01/2022 Diagnosed By PSA Score 942.40 06/24-2022-07/06/2022
Information in Bio Hoping to try a PARP inhibitor or Provenge perhaps, I don’t know much about this, but my medical oncologist keeps mentioning pluvicto, I’m not interested in doing that yet. Information from Bio below: Diagnosed 07/01/2022 Diagnosed By PSA Score 942.40 06/24-2022-07/06/2022
Shorehousejam
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
4 months ago
life Insurance
I wanted to get opinions regarding my life insurance 800K which will be expiring in a couple of months. I have the option to roll it over to a universal policy but it’s going to cost me 2K a month. I’m still Homone sensitive. And been on ADT and Nubeqa (daroludimide) for the last couple of years. Had
I wanted to get opinions regarding my life insurance 800K which will be expiring in a couple of months. I have the option to roll it over to a universal policy but it’s going to cost me 2K a month. I’m still Homone sensitive. And been on ADT and Nubeqa (daroludimide) for the last couple of years. Had
JDKotter
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
PSA now undetectable with 2 of 35 radiation treatments left.
PSA now undetectable with 2 of 35 radiation treatments left to complete. I will start Abiraterone next week, in addition to the Lupron I’m currently on. I’m celebrating today’s victory and wanted to share here. Of course, many days have been consumed with worry over the unknown. This group has been
PSA now undetectable with 2 of 35 radiation treatments left to complete. I will start Abiraterone next week, in addition to the Lupron I’m currently on. I’m celebrating today’s victory and wanted to share here. Of course, many days have been consumed with worry over the unknown. This group has been
Stereo1
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
ISO a third MO opinion for my dad
Hi all! My dad was diagnosed with pca in 2021, prostate removal that summer. After radical - was told no treatment necessary and lo and behold January the following year psa went from .04 to 1.2 in 3 months. Put on adt and zytiga (not sure of spelling), scans show pelvic bed spots and 1 on s1, radiation
Hi all! My dad was diagnosed with pca in 2021, prostate removal that summer. After radical - was told no treatment necessary and lo and behold January the following year psa went from .04 to 1.2 in 3 months. Put on adt and zytiga (not sure of spelling), scans show pelvic bed spots and 1 on s1, radiation
Dsmejkal88
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
PSA vs Testosterone Nadir for CRPC and Non-CRPC
This plot from Safriadi (2022) compares the mean values of PSA nadir versus Testosterone Nadir comparing Non-Castrate Resistant PC (Non-CRPC) to Castrate-Resistant PC (CRPC) men. For Non-CRPC men, the range of T-nadir was 2.5-49 ng/dL (mean = 21) and range for PSA nadir was 0.02-9 ng/mL (mean=2). For
This plot from Safriadi (2022) compares the mean values of PSA nadir versus Testosterone Nadir comparing Non-Castrate Resistant PC (Non-CRPC) to Castrate-Resistant PC (CRPC) men. For Non-CRPC men, the range of T-nadir was 2.5-49 ng/dL (mean = 21) and range for PSA nadir was 0.02-9 ng/mL (mean=2). For
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
PSA Score Doubling / Lab Error?
Hey folks I was diagnosed back in 2017 with 3+3, later upgraded to 3+4, but with less then 5% of G4. Epstein reviewed and said he would go against Johns Hopkins policy to automatically treat ANY amount of G4 and stick with AS, at least in my situation. Before and since my diagnosis, my PSA score has
Hey folks I was diagnosed back in 2017 with 3+3, later upgraded to 3+4, but with less then 5% of G4. Epstein reviewed and said he would go against Johns Hopkins policy to automatically treat ANY amount of G4 and stick with AS, at least in my situation. Before and since my diagnosis, my PSA score has
PTvsPC
in
Prostate Cancer Network
3 months ago
Docxtel triple therapy?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. My dad--81, advanced metastatic castrate resistant Diagnosed at 79 with stage 4 met 8 bones, including skull, no Gleason, never even saw a urologist. Diagnosed in ER and sent straight to the oncologist and palliative care doctor. PSA initially at 137 Lupron
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. My dad--81, advanced metastatic castrate resistant Diagnosed at 79 with stage 4 met 8 bones, including skull, no Gleason, never even saw a urologist. Diagnosed in ER and sent straight to the oncologist and palliative care doctor. PSA initially at 137 Lupron
lgutman
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
PSA reduction by Estrogen Patch (revised)
Here's a revised plot of PSA reduction due to castration from Estrogen Patch therapy. The previous version had the wrong time scale. That has been corrected in this version. The total time is 3 months, after which the PSA and testosterone both flattened out versus time. I've also added the reference
Here's a revised plot of PSA reduction due to castration from Estrogen Patch therapy. The previous version had the wrong time scale. That has been corrected in this version. The total time is 3 months, after which the PSA and testosterone both flattened out versus time. I've also added the reference
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
3 months ago
Dad's PSA risen from 0.01 to 0.05 in 2 months, 2 years post SRT. Any chance that there is no further progression?
PSA has risen 3 times in a row. I understand the figure is still low, but is this a definite indication that it will progress, or is there a chance that PSA can stabilize or fluctuate and not progress further? Things have been difficult in the family, I am hoping for a miracle that he had a curative
PSA has risen 3 times in a row. I understand the figure is still low, but is this a definite indication that it will progress, or is there a chance that PSA can stabilize or fluctuate and not progress further? Things have been difficult in the family, I am hoping for a miracle that he had a curative
MsBoBo
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
Can Nubeqa (Darolutamide) be used instead of normal ADT drugs for localized PCa?
Hi all. Australia has just given the green light to lower the cost of this so-called wonder drug from a staggering $40K (AUD) to a low $30. It seems that this drug has fewer side effects than the usual ADT drugs and from what I can gather does a pretty good job of preventing the growth and spread
Hi all. Australia has just given the green light to lower the cost of this so-called wonder drug from a staggering $40K (AUD) to a low $30. It seems that this drug has fewer side effects than the usual ADT drugs and from what I can gather does a pretty good job of preventing the growth and spread
Mike58
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
6 months ago
PSA drops with decreasing Testosterone
Here's a plot that I made from data taken from the PATCH estrogen patch therapy study. It plots the % reduction in PSA from baseline (100%) at time = 0 as a function of testosterone levels over a period of 4 weeks. As you know, estrogen effectively castrates men, causing a drop in testosterone over
Here's a plot that I made from data taken from the PATCH estrogen patch therapy study. It plots the % reduction in PSA from baseline (100%) at time = 0 as a function of testosterone levels over a period of 4 weeks. As you know, estrogen effectively castrates men, causing a drop in testosterone over
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
3 months ago
At the crossroads (again)
My profile is up to date, but, briefly, have failed chemo, ADT (am castrate resistant), failed Keytruda and now Pluvicto. Scans yest. & today show progression along with PSA rise. All my mets are in bone. So, my SOC choices are cabazataxel or radium 223. Other options are trial, which are a crapshoot
My profile is up to date, but, briefly, have failed chemo, ADT (am castrate resistant), failed Keytruda and now Pluvicto. Scans yest. & today show progression along with PSA rise. All my mets are in bone. So, my SOC choices are cabazataxel or radium 223. Other options are trial, which are a crapshoot
rsgdmd
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
3 months ago
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