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anyone have any idea how long it will take for a prolase bladder

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hi anyone have any idea how long to wait for bladder prolaspe op on nhss in northwest. my dr booked me in for a emergency op last feb 2020 iv only seen gynocoligest a few times to have ring fitted and took out to be cleaned

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Hi. I had a cystocele and bladder repair in Sept. 2020. I saw consultant in March 2020 who referred me to the stress urinary incontinence nurse to give me exercises until my operation which I had the same year. I hope this helps.

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I don’t know but just research how they will repair it. Especially if they intend to use mesh or tape. I am totally disabled because of that. If I had the chance (and thousands of other women along with me) I would ask for Burch colposuspension or native tissue repair. Happy to discuss with you further if you need any more info x

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Mrshappyme in reply to Mazzakay21

thankyou for the reply whats the difference between a burch colposuspension and a native tissuse repair ? x

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Mazzakay21 in reply to Mrshappyme

The Burch uses stitches to “hitch” up your urethra whereas the native tissue uses your own tissue (usually from your thigh I think). There is a bigger risk of retaining urine with the native tissue (or autologous as the medical professionals call it) so you are taught how to self catheterise with it. The Burch can be done keyhole or open surgery. I had a mesh fitted then had it partially removed (long story) which resulted in incontinence again so I decided to have an open Burch. I so wish I had done that to start with. Would have saved me from years of pain, reducing mobility, loss of job, loss of sex life….to name but a few! Take care and research h research research. X

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Desperateforrelief in reply to Mazzakay21

Same here! A TVT mesh sling has destroyed my life! Following I've had a burch sling, it failed and then 2 autologous slings. Now not working either. I think because everything in my pelvic floor has fallen. I looked with a mirror the other day - everything vying to come out. I think they would be if it wasn't for all the scar tissue in my perineum. I've had 22 surgeries trying to get the mesh out and repairs for damages it caused. I believe I had such poor luck with the Burch and autologous slings because I do not have enough material to work with. The Burch procedure is less painful, but I think the autologous (they use your skin from abdomen or thigh to make a sling) works better - it is closest to the mesh sling mechanically speaking. The problem with mesh is it is plastic. It can shrink (mine worked great for a year and a half and then shrank), it has a variety of ways to be made, each with their own particular issues. It is not innert, some people have reacted to it 15 to 20 years later. Being plastic it can degrade, especially in an oxygen enriched environment. Once implanted - it is permanent. Why it took so many surgeries to get out (and there are probably many fragments still running around). In some people it causes autoimmune disorders and foreign body reaction. When they created this they took a 100 year old idea and decided to try plastic (polypropylene). The idea was good - mechanically. But we are bio-mechanical beings. They knew ahead of time there would be severe damage and they did it anyway! I tell people to take a rump roast, run cellophane tape through it. Cut off the ends so no one can see them. Then ask someone to remove the tape without damaging the meat. It is a blind procedure, meaning they cannot see where they are going in your body. They are using a one size fits all procedure to put it in. They use a needle and point in the direction they need to go. They say this is a minimally invasive procedure. In court big pharma said this was a marketing term. Every year they "rebrand" the names of the mesh and say it is a new product. Not like the old stuff. They are telling bold face lies.

The mesh actually got into my public bone. I have two divets in my public bone where they pried out the mesh and the staple they used to attach it. There is so much more I can tell you about this. Please do not allow anyone you love to get any form of mesh put in them.

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Poppycat999 in reply to Desperateforrelief

Thankyou so much for informing all of us ladies of the danger of mesh surgery (TVT) l have read all about it. I wont be having it. I have a prolaspe which l manage with kegel8 ultra20 once a day and a ring pessary and cosmocol sachet daily. I'm doing ok but not wonderful l had to adjust my life to less standing and more lying down also making sure l can sit down when l go out but l am able to do alot of things I enjoy. I have read the mesh breaks down after several years and also erodes into your tissues making if almost impossible to successfully remove.Thankyou so very very much XX

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Desperateforrelief in reply to Poppycat999

You are so very welcome! They can use your own skin for support. It isn't as easy as mesh because they have to harvest it. They can use abdomen and thigh skin. It's called autologous graft. Fewer doctors willing to use it, not as easy or as much of a money maker. If it gets bad enough you can look into this. I am very happy to hear you didn't get mesh, too much risk.

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I wish you all the very best for the future chat with me anytime X

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