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Hi Everyone,

I am 25 years old, Its been a month I was diagnosed with B12 deficiency as my serum levels were less than 150 pg/L. I was on vegan diet for last 7 months and was doing High intensity workouts which might describe how my body got robbed of nutrients(lost 12 kg). I was diagnosed immediately after I started having symptoms. My GP told me I don’t have PA. I have received 9 injections of 1000 Mcg Cynocobalamine in a month. And I take tablets 5000 mcg Methylcobalamin(on the day I don’t get injections)

I have seen an improvement in peripheral Neuropathy and other sensations like tingling and all. Lack of balance and unsteady movements is improved 90%. I felt depressed first few days but that is also gone and I don’t feel depressed anymore. The only thing I am bothered right now is, Every two days I, I am having those debilitating episodes where I feel totally out of the world, I don’t feel grounded at all. During this episode, I get afraid a lot. After this episode, I feel very less energetic.

I want to know what further steps can I take? I wanted to ask if PA is not diagnosed, And I was vegan, there should not be an absorption issue right?

I feel dreadful, I am living in USA right now for my studies and I don’t have many friends over here. I am glad I found out this forum.

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fbirder profile image
fbirder

Seven months on a vegan diet shouldn't be enough to cause such a severe deficiency to cause neuropathy. The body can store four or five years worth of B12. Unless your previous diet lacked B12-rich foods (animals) then you should have had enough. Hi intensity training doesn't use up B12 as it gets recycled (that's why your body needs so little).

I would suspect a B12 absorption problem, most likely PA.

Some people react badly to methylcobalamin injections (I do) so you might try swapping over to cyanocobalamin. It should work just as well as methylcobalamin for fixing the symptoms.

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psawant

I have been vegetarian 23 years and ate very less non veg food for only 2 years. I was told by GP that I don’t have anemia. I don’t know how she came to that. What further steps should i take?

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Gambit62Administrator in reply to psawant

Pernicious anaemia is a misnomer - anaemia (abnormal red blood cells) aren't present in 20% of patients. PA is actually an auto-immune condition that affects the gut - attacking the mechanism that allows you to absorb B12 from your food, resulting in a B12 deficiency.

As you have been on a diet that doesn't contain much B12 there is quite a strong possibility that the cause is dietary rather than an absorption problem, like PA.

If you have damage to nerve cells as a result of B12 deficiency then this heals very slowly. Some symptoms may actually get worse temporarily.

I would, like fbirder, suggest that you try tablets that aren't methylcobalamin, just in case the problems you have are related to that particular form of B12.

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psawant in reply to Gambit62

Thank you very much for the advice Gambit62. You guys have been really really helpful in this dreadful situation. Love you all. Hope we all find peace and good health.

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psawant

I am getting treated with Cynocobalamine injections 1000 mcg alternate days.

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psawant

Is it too early for the symptoms to go away?

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Nackapan

As vegetarian then vegan were you on vitamin supplements including b12?

If you were not it will take time to get well again . Get other vits like d checked on your bloods and ferritin ect.

T c

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psawant

I forgot ti mention my vitamin D levels are 18 , I am deficient in that as well

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psawant

I was not on b12 supplements being vegetarian or vegan

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Nackapan

When all your levels increase I'm sure you will be feeling better. It will take time though so take it easy.

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psawant

Okay Nackapan, That’s kind of relief.

I met my Gp today and asked if the Anemia test was done, she said she had done it with b12 test and said i do not have anemia. She is ready to refer hematologist if needed after few weeks.

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Sunshine1932

Being a vegetarian or vegan one should have been taking B12 supplements for sure.

Let's hope you dont have PA and get yourself up to a healthy fitness with injections and supplements will be enough.

For now though my advice is to stay on injections.

I was an alcoholic who was bulimic and then got myself together and through myself into fitness and became a vegan over night and I did all those things without ever taking one supplement of B12. So as you can imagine my body hit rock bottom.

I have been on injections now for 18 months and back up to a good place but I'm still takining one a week.

We live and learn in life and it's the only way to gain experience

I'm 39 by the way

Good luck and always listen to your body as it's your best ally

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psawant in reply to Sunshine1932

Thank you for the response seren1932. I am trying to keep myself busy in work and trying to forget this all. Most of the symptoms have gone but those related to neurology takes time it seems

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MoKayD

Stop taking the methylcobcalamin type of supplements. They made me feel awful. Switch to another type of B-12 oral supplements and see if it helps.

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psawant in reply to MoKayD

I have Cynocobalamine too. I will try taking them and reduce the dose to 1000 mcg per day only. Will see how it goes

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Litatamon

"Good luck and always listen to your body as it's your best ally."

So true. I can't even tell you the number of times that I have found health issues when doctors have said I am fine and/or just need rest. Including b12 deficiency.

Also agree with the methylcobalamin pills. I was asked to take them in between shots, after loading, as my province has a real push to get off these *expensive* shots, sigh. I felt awful within days. Pushed through and still felt awful. And in the end it was a productive failure. Why? It made me decide to self-inject instead of simply changing the pill source.

All the best to you going forward psawant.

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psawant in reply to Litatamon

Hi Litatamon,

I will stop taking pills as I am taking injections alternate days. And see how it affects. How do you feel now? Are you feeling normal now?

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Litatamon in reply to psawant

Not feeling the agitation being off the pills.

But not feeling healed either. I am only about three months in.

I had 80% of my symptoms go with loading, so I am very fortunate.

But when I push things a few come to say hello!

I am extremely fatigued. I would/could sleep through a day, if that was feasible. But I also recently found out I am very low (deficient) in vitamin d. So who knows what owns what.

But all in all I feel grateful.

Hope you continue to see improvements.

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psawant in reply to Litatamon

That is good to hear

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psawant in reply to Litatamon

Vitamin D and b12 goes hand in hand. If b12 is lower there are chances that D might also get lower. Good to know that you know it now.

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