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Embryo made it to blasto on day, but too early to grade!

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Hello, I went in to have my fresh transfer today (3rd round of IVF) and felt optimistic as had 16 eggs collected, 12 mature, 8 fertilised, then 5 still going on day 3, but then the embryologist said we have one blasto, but it's too early to grade it! Two others might go to blasto tomorrow. The news took me by surprise as I thought at least they would be able to grade it (I know "average" embryos can still make it).

Unfortunately, I was told that the sperm wasn't great again - abnormal sperm morphology. I become completely overwhelmed with emotion as deep down know that this egg collection was our last (we have taken advice from a nutritionist and both go to acupuncture so I really don't know what else we can do). I decided to have 2 embryos transferred and praying that one sticks. I'm sorry to sound negative, it's just these clinics get so caught up in gradings / poor language that you often come out feeling worse then when you entered, even though I have 2 little embryos on board.

Has anyone had success with their embryo even though it was graded?

Thank you x

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KiboXX

Hey lovely,

I’m so sorry you’ve come away from your transfer not feeling positive. Just wanted to say that grades aren’t everything, all of them can make babies. My clinic don’t actually give you the grades unless you specifically ask for them for these exact reasons!

Keeping everything crossed you’ve got a sticky bean (or two) in there xxx

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Milly2021 in reply toKiboXX

Thanks so much, I completely agree wish the clinics wouldn't say. Wish you all the best with your pregnancy xx❤️

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Millbanks

Hi lovely, if they are good enough to transfer that’s all you need to know! Best of luck xx

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Milly2021 in reply toMillbanks

Thank you Mill, keep telling myself to snap out of it and be positive. Really hope we get our little one xx

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Millbanks in reply toMilly2021

It’s so hard, because even through all of the positives we always focus on the one negative point. But you’ve made it to transfer! They wouldn’t bother even getting that far if they didn’t think it would form a viable pregnancy. You’ve got this 💪🏼 Xxx

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Milly2021 in reply toMillbanks

Thanks so much, very true xxx

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MissSaoPaulo

Think of all the 3-day transfers before there was the technology to take them to 5 days and which resulted in babies. Thousands and thousands of babies... best of luck, hope you've got a sticky one in there xxx

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Milly2021 in reply toMissSaoPaulo

So true, thank you xxx

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Fudge1980

Just wanted to say good luck lovely 💕 I believe any embryo that’s good enough to transfer has a chance. My clinic doesn’t grade the only thing they told me was they were good quality. My outlook on this fet cycle is it will either stick or it won’t. Might sound harsh but I can’t think any other way. This is our last embryo xx everything crossed for you 🤞🏼💕

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Milly2021 in reply toFudge1980

Thanks so much, all the best to you too. Hope our embryos stay strong x

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Fruitandflowers

We had 'perfect' embryo transferred earlier this year and it ended in a chemical. The embryologist meant well but went on about how great it was so I think we assumed it was all going to work out from the BFP and then losing it was a real shock. Also it made us feel like we'd lost our best chance and maybe wouldn't get such a good one again so what chance did we have if even the best one didn't work.

The NHS waits even for FETs was too long so we did a private round - our clinic has a policy of not telling you the grading (or much at all really - literally just the numbers still there at day X). Did one fresh transfer but again was a chemical. Then had a FET and that one stuck. I'm guessing that maybe the one that was transferred first was better quality as I think they do the best ones first if there's a difference but no idea. I feel now like knowing the grade first time was actually not that helpful and probably the quality of what it was at a few days in didn't make a difference in the end.

Wishing you luck that yours stick and personally I wouldn't dwell on the grading or lack of - they're good enough to have gotten this far so there's every chance 🍀

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Milly2021 in reply toFruitandflowers

Thanks so much, it's true. Perhaps the ones that are not perfect hang on and fight! My acupuncturist said boys are slower to develop :). All the best x

I hope everything goes in your favour. Never had grading until my last one and even then it's wasn't good but he is here. I wouldn't worry too much, it's what happens after that matters. All the best

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Milly2021

Ahh congratulations, thank you. Praying we get lucky x

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Hopecontinues

Hi, I've had 4 early blastocysts that they couldn't grade. My doctor said they could be slow growers and the quality looked good, so they transferred. 1 didn't make the thaw. The others didn't stick, but I've now found out I have an implantation issue, so the fact they didn't work is mute. Certainly the doctor was happy to transfer. I did wonder whether assisted hatching would help in this situation, but couldn't get an answer on that.

Regarding the sperm, have you had your partners DHEA levels checked? Some people have had success after a course of DHEA, but it's not for everyone.

Don't give up hope. I know it's a tough journey.

Best of luck.

X

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Milly2021 in reply toHopecontinues

That’s interesting to hear, I do wish they give the choice on knowing about grades. My husband had a bunch of tests in the summer including comet that came back ok but I know each batch of sperm differs. We haven’t looked at DHEA, I’ll take a look. Thank you x

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Fruitandflowers in reply toMilly2021

Jumping in... and make sure he's not been ill - even a cold - in the 2-3months before. It sounds so trivial but we were told on the day of collection that my husband's sample was poor when it had always been great and we had to do ICSI (hadn't planned to). Fertilization was pretty bad and although we got two blats from 9 eggs, the next round we got all to blasts. The consultant said just a small illness can do that and I wish we'd known as we might have delayed the first round as it's so hard on your body for something like that to have such an impact. x

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Milly2021

That’s true, also I’ve heard COVID vaccinations has an effect so best to wait a few months after. So many minefields!! X

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Bump12

I’ve not been in this situation so not really sure what to tell you but I’m sorry to hear you are in this situation and just remember that there are positive stories out there and you need to be positive and a good mindset is way better than any grading xx

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