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You are your own expert.

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Never let a "pseudo-expert" gaslight you.

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Farooqji

So true. That's why I stay away from doctors, neurologists and movement disorder specialists

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Nitro53 in reply to Farooqji

what do you do for your meds’?

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MBAnderson in reply to Farooqji

when were you diagnosed?

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Farooqji in reply to MBAnderson

5 years ago

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Grumpy77 in reply to Farooqji

You used to be @Iqbaliqbal if I'm not mistaken, right?

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SilentEchoes in reply to Grumpy77

Full stop.

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Grumpy77 in reply to SilentEchoes

??

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Grumpy77 in reply to Farooqji

...and since you've stayed away from these people, how have you been managing your symptoms?

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Farooqji in reply to Grumpy77

I have consulted three neurologists only once at the time of diagnosis five years back. They can only diagnose you and can prescribe a few known medications. They only will increase the dose if the symptoms do not subside. They don't know anything else about the PD. The same hit and trial process can be done by the patients themselves.

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SilentEchoes in reply to Farooqji

Neurologists have to adhere to established protocols. Outside of diagnosis there isn't much they can do, and it certainly won't cure you.

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JayPwP in reply to SilentEchoes

It's called 'Accepted Line of Treatment'

Allopathic / Modern Medicine practitioners do not deviate from it. If they do, then they can be sanctioned / outcast / subject to other actions

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JayPwP in reply to Farooqji

But patients cannot prescribe medicine for themselves

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SilentEchoes in reply to JayPwP

Pharmaceuticals are patentable lab created derivatives of natural medicine. Everything thing we need can be found in nature.

Experts can understand the patient experience clinically, but you don't know the thing until you live the thing. Can a male obstetrician ever really know what labor feels like?

We are the experts of our own body. Everyone has a different experience.

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Tayogi in reply to Farooqji

Farooqji I also stay away from them. I figured out my own treatment and dosage and what to do to feel better. Working on healing and detoxing constantly. I trust myself and my body more than I trust indoctrinated white coat wearing strangers.

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Farooqji in reply to Tayogi

Good. Can you explain a little bit of what protocol are you following

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SilentEchoes in reply to Farooqji

Right now I'm dealing with kidney issues. The premise for me is that neurodegenerative disease is toxin induced. The basic things I think everyone needs is high dose B12 methylene blue and zeolite for detoxification. You build out from there.

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Tayogi in reply to Farooqji

sure, i take whole brown 40% mucuna from barlowes with a tiny bit of carbidopa, I’ve posted about this before so you can check it out in my profile. Apart from that I’ve been treating for Lyme and co infections, recently I was finally able to leave the house were i was living for the past few years as it was heavily contaminated with black mold, so I’m detoxing and taking binders. I use a full spectrum infrared sauna 3x a week for detox and to lower inflammation. I’m also working on shielding my brand new clean house ( hopefully) from EMFs( electromagnetic fields) because I did not realize until I moved here that there were 3 cell towers surrounding the neighborhood and a box of multiple smart meters very close to my house. In the end, I’m just taking constant action to address my environment - internal and external- to allow my body to be in a parasympathetic state high enough to for it to feel safe and heal. I’ve been on this journey for many years and I’ve seen great benefit. It is in the end a whole lifestyle change and upkeep, to provide our bodies with the optimal care so they can function at their best.

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Esperanto in reply to Farooqji

Remember that unfortunately most people in the world do not have or cannot get enough knowledge to make the right decisions regarding their PD and additional complaints. That probably applies to a lesser extent to the participants in HU, but even here I think it would be wise to at least use your doctors as a sparring partner in addition to your own common sense if you have it. Just like adjusting and optimizing your medication from time to time, so does the choice of your doctors. Try to find the very best! 🍀

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DreamRain in reply to Esperanto

Fully agree

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Gcf51 in reply to Farooqji

I don't stay away. I keep my MS informed and so far she sees no problem. GP well... he has a negative view on High dose B1, I just don't tell him...

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Enidah

Hear hear!

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MarionP

Understandable, but what brought this on?

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SilentEchoes in reply to MarionP

Are you addressing me the OP?

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MarionP in reply to SilentEchoes

Somebody named Silent Echoes.

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Michel0220

I fully agree. I believe that a holistic approach is required to slow down progression and manage our symptoms. This includes medicine, exercise, nutrition and meditation.

This forum is quite unique as it gives you access to a wide spectrum of knowledge and allows you to become experts in your own condition.

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Gcf51 in reply to Michel0220

I don't think of myself as an expert, just not going to to sit back and do nothing. Who is a better judge of what works than me. I am 100% on board with B1 Therapy and exercise.....

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CRMACK1948 in reply to Michel0220

I love the “ No silver bullet” interviews,and have cherry picked and put into practice an eclectic mix of ideas that are helping my husband.I find the massive gap between British and American medicine a bit depressing.”Find a new consultant” seems acceptable in the U.S. where as in Britain it almost impossible.Both my husbands G.P.,Parkinson’s nurse and consultant have negative attitudes to anything outside a protocol centred on Sinemet,and “ let us know when you get worse” At the beginning I thought they were God,now I realise I know more about what’s out there and effective than they do.It’s scary,but also empowering,because it means we can have hope,which they just cannot offer.

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SilentEchoes in reply to CRMACK1948

That's exactly the point, empowering the patient and their caregiver, because in the end we are responsible for rescuing ourselves and the sooner we realize this the better our lives will be. Some people just never try, but that's their journey.

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MarionP in reply to CRMACK1948

It is a tough road.

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SilentEchoes in reply to MarionP

Not necessarily, there's a workaround for most therapies.

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Dpeachey

The last visit I had with my neurologist, I filled him in on B1, fast walking, and my ongoing experiments with Sinemet, Entacapone, and Macuna Pruriens. I’ve been seeing him off and on for 3+ years, and he said I really don’t need him, as I probably know more about PD than he does. I can get my GP to prescribe what I feel I need for meds. I agree with most of the sentiment expressed here, and many other sources of information online. A grateful “Thank You” to those of you that post such helpful advice and let us in on what is helping you.

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gwendolinej

There was a post on this site ages ago linking to a speech by Professor Andrew Lees, a well known neurologist in the UK and since retired, saying that the system is broken. It’s now not run by doctors, but hospitals, universities and lawyers.

A good example of this was told to me by my husband’s neurologist. A neurologist and friend of his was criticised and reported by a regional hospital for prescribing a particular drug for its possible side effects. Not because the patient had this side effect, but because he could have.

Our Neurologist was asked to give his opinion by the “authorities”. He told us that they probably won’t ask again, as his report was 30 pages long. I suspect it didn’t just cover that drug. 😅 He also told us that he had never seen that particular side effect.

This puts doctors in a very difficult position.

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DreamRain

Couldn’t agree more.

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