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Gene therapy is what is going to do it for us. Here it is!!

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park_bear

I do believe that gene therapy offers a better chance of success than, say, stem cells. That said, the Parkinson's candidate mentioned is preclinical which means it is at least 10 years from approval, if it succeeds.

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Cleo16 in reply to park_bear

I give up

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bassofspades in reply to Cleo16

Cleee yoooo!......never give up , my love!

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park_bear in reply to Cleo16

Several good interventions available right now. Have you tried the cinnamon?

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

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bassofspades in reply to park_bear

I have. Doesn't work for me

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bassofspades in reply to park_bear

Cinnamon, thiamine, mannitol, fast walking, coconut oil ,cbd,etc, there's things that work for some but nothing works for all. We can try it all, it won't hurt us

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chartist in reply to bassofspades

Bass,

You left out an important one, lithium orotate!!! It deserves more than just an, "etc"!!! 😉😉😉

Art

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bassofspades in reply to chartist

And broccoli seeds!

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kind2animals in reply to bassofspades

Seeds or sprouts?

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pdkid in reply to chartist

my dad has been on this all year but with all the research i have been doing and all the supplements he takes, i forgot what this is for!! can you please remind me :) (we pause on the lithium whenever he is on a psilocybin microdose schedule, as they should not be mixed)

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chartist in reply to pdkid

pdkid,

This is why less than 21 mg of lithium orotate is worth considering for PwP :

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

Art

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pdkid in reply to chartist

thanks art!! will add it to my notes :)

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pdkid in reply to chartist

weirdly, we do not have access to lithium orotate in canada but we are lucky that we have friends down in the us that happily mail it to us :)

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Ponieboy in reply to pdkid

Has he considered adding Lions Mane to the psilocybin? Both are great for neurogenisis. There is a pod cast where Paul Stamets talks about that exactly. I am waiting for the DEA to reschedule it as a class 2. I have also considered scouting the local cow pastures for them myself. Where do you live that allows you access to psilocybin?

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pdkid in reply to Ponieboy

Oups, sorry for late reply! Yes, Lion's Mane is very much part of his supplement regime, especially when he is on a psilocybin schedule. We are up in Canada... its not fully legal but for some reason, they turn a blind eye to internet sales of it. Are you in the US? There are a handful of cities where it is now legal, especially in the west coast! If you can get your hands on some spores, you can grow it too. Here is a post I made about psilocybin some months ago that may be of interest: healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

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pmmargo in reply to chartist

yeah this at least makes me feel a bit better

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Cleo16 in reply to park_bear

It looks too complicated

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park_bear in reply to Cleo16

Only requires adding a measured amount of cinnamon to your food or drink.

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PDConscience in reply to park_bear

Right. Don’t forget a ‘measured amount’ of burning incense, banging on a tambourine, and chanting at the top of your lungs. That too may work...

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park_bear in reply to PDConscience

I'll bang on this tamborine gladly:

"The present investigation underlines the importance of a naturally used spice and flavoring agent viz. cinnamon in reducing α-syn deposits in transgenic mice expressing mutant A53T human α-syn. Upon oral administration, cinnamon markedly reduced the level of insoluble α-syn in nigra, hippocampus and brain stem of A53T mice... , neuroprotective proteins like DJ-1 and Parkin are known to reduce the formation of Lewy bodies in the CNS. Accordingly, we observed upregulation and/or normalization of DJ-1 and Parkin in the nigra of A53T mice by treatment with cinnamon...

"Quantification of α-syn immunostaining indicated a significant reduction of α-syn in cinnamon-treated mice relative to the vehicle-treated group...cinnamon treatment decreased the level of insoluble, but not soluble, α-syn in the nigra ofA53T mice... Mice were treated with cinnamon (100 mg/kg body wt/d) ... via gavage for 60d. "

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bassofspades in reply to park_bear

100mg x 108 kg = 10,800mg or 10.8g of cinnamon a day for a big guy like me. About 2 tsp.

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park_bear in reply to bassofspades

NO Because you must adjust for differing metabolic rate between mice and people. Per my report on this matter that I linked to above, this is a factor of 12:

"Adjusting for metabolic rate as set forth here: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl... the mouse dosage is equivalent to 8 mg/kg body wt/d for a human, about .5 g for a 60 kg (132 pound) human. This may or may not be an effective human dosage."

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bassofspades in reply to park_bear

Thanks pb!

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bassofspades in reply to park_bear

A few years ago, my chiropractor, who is a PhD in nutritional medicine, prescribed for me a drink :1tsp cinnamon

1tbs lemon juice

2 tsp acv

1 tbs honey

Mix in a glass of water

It a good tonic. I used Ceylon cinnamon and extra honey. I used to drink it every morning. I should do that again.

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PDConscience in reply to bassofspades

You may want to avoid the more common Chinese/Viet sources if you do choose to experiment. From a 2014 report (they’ve been testing with mice for nearly a decade): “Using mass spectrometric analysis, the researchers also found that Ceylon cinnamon was more beneficial as opposed to Chinese cinnamon, which contains a chemical called coumarin that can be toxic to the liver. Both types of cinnamon are readily available in the U.S.” sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/...

Would this only treat pwp who have a certain genetic mutation that caused the disease? Meaning it would not work for idiopathic Parkinson’s?

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Idiopathic means we don't know what they cause is. So I would think patients would have to undergo proper genetic testing to accurately target respective defects.

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jeffmayer in reply to bassofspades

What is the point in knowing what caused it if you still have it a cure is needed or a way to stop it progressing

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park_bear in reply to

Sangamo says "Pan Allele", meaning it should work for everybody, but this is theoretical and will need to be demonstrated in the clinic.

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WinnieThePoo

Together with the investment in denali it shows a serious commitment to research into an eventual cure for PD. As Park bear points out, that won't be overnight, but as Sam Gamgee gaffer used to say"it's the job that's never started takes longest to finish"

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bassofspades

With modern technology, i think we'll be pleasantly surprised at how fast things are capable of moving. 2023 to 2025 and this thing should be a done deal . Save this post.. bet you a dollar!

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simonasays in reply to bassofspades

I love your enthusiasm!

Gene therapy is what’s going to do it for us, PWP long term but it’s a ways out. I think stem cells will be applicable sooner. Between stem cells, FUS, and the quest for a disease slowing repurposed drug, we can kick this can down the road until a gene therapy is ready. Blue Rock has a stem cell trial looking for participants. As does Mass General. Kyoto should have results in 2022.

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bassofspades

Parkinson's Disease Gene Therapy Trials: Hype and Hope

youtu.be/PkukxG6UDvcWatching this now. 3 minutes into it and already answered so many questions!

Must watch! All of you!!

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park_bear in reply to bassofspades

I get an error message. Maybe just post the title of the video and I can find it on YouTube.

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bassofspades in reply to park_bear

Parkinson's Disease Gene Therapy Trials: Hype and Hope

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kind2animals in reply to bassofspades

Putting this title in the search box when on YouTube got the video for me.

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Zardoz in reply to bassofspades

There's nothing proven yet, just a lot of enthusiasm and even if a gene therapy were available it would only be available to the very rich.

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chartist in reply to bassofspades

I think this is the correct link :

youtu.be/PkukxG6UDvc

Art

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pmmargo

yes it can be miraculous but have to look out for cytokine reaction which can spoil everything. a couple of years ago my boss's husband ( a doctor with pd) had this done in NY by prevail Pharmaceuticals for his gba mutation. He survived but just barely.

BY waiting I am hoping they are getting better at dealing with this situation.

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