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Too much of a good thing? High doses of vitamin D can lead to kidney failure

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The headline and the above linked science daily screed is a negligent and alarmist summary of a medical event properly reported here:

cmaj.ca/content/191/14/E390...

The patient had a pre-existing case of gout, indicating pre-existing kidney malfunction, as well as hypertension and polypharmacy: "perindopril 8 mg daily, rosuvastatin 10 mg daily, amlodipine 10 mg daily, indapamide 2.5 mg daily and febuxostat 80 mg daily."

I take a similar dosage of vitamin D and get plenty of sun. My levels are in the right in the middle of the desired range. This patient's levels were crazy high - more than four times higher, and more than double the desired maximum. Low levels of vitamin D have been shown to increase cancer and mortality risk. Too little vitamin D is a health risk and the more common one. The moral of the story is get your vitamin D levels checked whenever you have routine blood work done, and aim to be in the middle of the desired range.

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JAS9 in reply to park_bear

Yes, that was alarmist, and yes you should have your levels checked. OTOH the case for high dose D supplements may not be as clear-cut as many people, including doctors, think. Here's a short 10-minute video that cautions us to question what "everyone knows". youtu.be/7LYsYbgdzvo

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park_bear in reply to JAS9

Yes she is correct there is no benefit to increasing levels beyond 20 ng/mL, which is 50 nmol per liter on the chart here:

mpkb.org/_detail/home/patho...

The aim of supplementation is to get up to that level.

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JANVAN in reply to park_bear

What is than a good level Vit. D, in the view of functional medicine ?(not school medicine)

And do you take pills or drops

(and adding K2) ?

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park_bear in reply to JANVAN

From my writing at the link:

Vitamins and Minerals for Bone Health and Reduced Risk of Cancer

tinyurl.com/hya5dwd

"The relationship between vitamin D levels and all cause mortality (pdf) was measured by Melamed in a population of 13,000 people over 20 years. He found that lowest mortality occurred over a blood concentration in the range of 30-50 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter). At lower levels of vitamin D mortality was quite a bit higher. At higher levels of vitamin D mortality also started to rise, but not as steeply. Other studies have found this type of "bathtub" curve as well. So how does that translate into a dosage recommendation? Optimum dosage varies somewhat with the individual, depending on factors such as diet and sun. Here is one take:

'So far as can be judged from numerous studies documenting the magnitude of the effect of sun exposure ... the primitive intake would have been at least 4000 IU/day and probably two to three times that level, with corresponding serum ...D levels ranging from 40 to 80 ng/mL.'

Personally, after taking 5000 IU/day for some time, my blood level measured 32 ng/ml. Based on that reading, my doctor recommended raising it to 7000 IU/day. A rule of thumb is that every additional 1000 IU/day raises the blood level by 10ng/ml."

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Kia17 in reply to park_bear

Hi Park_bear

I have been Vitamin D deficient for years and after taking daily dose of 3000 IU daily with K2 , recently the blood level of Vitamin D reached 235. Do you think this is an optimal level?

Phosphate, PTH and calcium are normal.

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park_bear in reply to Kia17

There are two different units for measuring vitamin D:

[ nmol/l ] vs [ ng/ml ]. 100 nmol/l = 40 ng/ml .

Here is the curve of hazard ratio versus serum level:

mpkb.org/_detail/home/patho...

Your level seems high but it would take someone more expert than me to properly interpret that in light of your other levels.

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JANVAN in reply to park_bear

Thank you very much for the answer. Quick and clear !

(by the way, a famous Brazilian neurologist, also go for very high doses of Vit. D,

with 3-monthly control. A lot of MS-people helped with that. Some few with Parkinson. Yet a lot of discussion about that (here in Europe)). His name :

Dr. Coimbra.)

My doctor says, it is to dangerous, and it emphasizes to less the pesticides and heavy metals......

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Kia17

Mine is 235 nmol/L. Thanks for the link. I will check it out.

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