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Hi all,

Please could someone help with my test.

Appreciate your support.

Ana

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lankisterguyVolunteer

Hi ANA4,-

That is not a test or result I have seen in the past- was it part of a normal blood screen or a special test for COVID-19 vaccination?

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I would read the IgM as negative (7.9 is less than 90 )

and the IgG BAU as positive (33.3 is greater than 31.50)

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Len

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ANA4 in reply to lankisterguy

Hi Len, Thank you for your reply.

This test is a special test for COVID-19 vaccination,.

I didn’t understand if there is a kind of protection or not, because I’m planning to travel :(

Ana

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Belfastbees in reply to ANA4

I have done a test also and got a score of 189U/ml. I'm not certain which type of the antibodies were tested for but I believe it was a test for IgG antibodies. yes its much higher than yours but to what extent either of us is protected is unknown. The test is a quantitive not qualitive test so who knows your fewer antibodies may be more effective than my greater number. Its not really much help and concerning travel you should consider the prevalance at your departure and arrival points, and where you will be, what you will be doing. Personally I have decided to avoid all closed in spaces for anything but the briefest of time while the local case rate is elevated. That is flight and train banned for now. Everything has risk though and life is for living. Personally I would not travel purely for leisure, but might for family, but only if cases were low. I would drive before any other means. I say this from a position of not expecting (but also not knowing) that corona virus would kill me but that it may well make me sick for a prolonged time during which I am infectious with possibily longer term effects. It is to be mitigated against as so much is not understood.

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Jm954Administrator in reply to ANA4

Don’t read too much into the IgM result as that level may depend to some extent on how long ago you had your vaccination. IgM antibodies are the initial antibodies produced and decline as IgG antibodies take over. Difficult to know how these results translate into immunity and protection for you.

Jackie

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Astro617 in reply to ANA4

I had a very low antibody result and I am proceeding as if I am not vaccinated. And as Belfastbees said, I am very aware the possibility of grave illness should I contract the virus. If you must travel, I recommend you get yourself a tight fitting N-95 or KN-95 to wear when you have to be out in public and avoid crowded places, especially if the Delta variant has taken over. It is more than twice as contagious than previous variants. Wishing you well.

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ANA4 in reply to Astro617

Thank you 🌷

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lankisterguyVolunteer

Hi ANA4,I was about to reply, but Belfastbees covered everything extremely well, I absolutely agree with his response.

Len

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gardening-girl

Please take a look at the attached graph measuring post-BNT162b2/Pfizer vaccination with the Roche Elecsys Anti-SARS-CoV-2 S test. The graph is from the following study:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

I think that you may have to enlarge the image to see the Y axis of the plot.

a graph of antibody response to covid vaccination
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JigFettlerVolunteer

Curious you have been given IgM level too.

IgM results from a FIRST encounter with a new virus.

IgG will predominate on subsequent encounters.

The primary response of the immune system is different to the secondary and subsequent infection challenge from a virus. IgG can take some days to get numbers up when confronted by a virus for the first time. The next time - a few hours!

The whole point of vaccination.

There is a lot on Google / This may help...

pediaa.com/difference-betwe...

In CLL - while the antibodies are present - (good thing in that it shows the immune system has been triggered...) but does not guarantee full functionality. A vast array of interactions are required to make it work. In many cases in CLL it works well enough most of the time. Thankfully - I have low immunoglobulin after FCR. The price of remission I guess. But I have as yet not got infections of any kind, including bacteria. Maybe cos I am careful, maybe lucky, maybe have good T cells.

Think of an orchestra - for the wow effect - every instrument needs to be in tune and beat perfect. Including the triangle player!

I'll stick my neck out - your immune system has seen the virus or a vaccination before. Hence IgG > IgM.

As lankisterguy and Belfastbees say above - continue to take care. Here in the UK with Delta higher in my area by a factor of 4 than hitherto this pandemic - I am not going to fall at the last hurdle. Thankfully - numbers are starting to fall.

Jig

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stevesmith1964

HiThe IgM result is meaningless in terms of covid immunity.

Do you know if the IgG result was to the spike protein or not.?

Also remember antibodies are only part of the immune response. It is possible to have no antibodies , like me, but still have a decent T cell memory to support and fight any covid infection. I have had both Jabs and covid in between jabs.

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