Glen Sabin cure ?

[Canuck901]

Has anyone been in communication or have any knowledge on the Glen Sabin protocol which cured his CLL

[Cpt_N]

Haven't looked into it but a quick search shows his book for sale on Amazon. Of course everyone should take better care of themselves (especially when diagnosed), but I would not heavily rely on this. Sure it is probably an insightful read into how we all can take better care of ourselves, but I would not expect a cure like his.

For example, I am praying to a coconut everyday to lift a curse that is on my dad's side of the family from a long lost relative with a perplexing death. It is a long story, but whatever helps you FEEL better can't hurt. It is when it starts conflicting with other doctors and things when it can cause harm.

[Canuck901 in reply to Cpt_N]

Yeah In his book he talks about his life changes , diet and exercise plus he was Adamant at getting his blood tests weekly or every 2 weeks. He is promoting his 1 CLL coaching that you can book with him

[AussieNeil Administrator]

Read this medical paper documenting his path to his remission, which incidentally spontaneously happens about 1% of the time in CLL: "A Case of Complete and Durable Molecular Remission of Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Following Treatment with Epigallocatechin-3-gallate, an Extract of Green Tea": cureus.com/articles/3677-a-...

We have nearly 200 posts discussing EGCG/Green Tea, with this one a good start: healthunlocked.com/cllsuppo...

Bear in mind that CLL is incredibly heterogeneous and that even in the Phase 2 Mayo Clinic EGCG trials, about a third of those enrolled didn't benefit from taking 4 grams a day of the pharmaceutical grade Polyphenol-E EGCG extract trialled. There's also the issue that the herbal supplement industry is not regulated in most countries. Because of that, one of the principal authors of the Mayo Clinic papers, Dr Neil Kay, has publicly stated that he doesn't recommend CLL patients take EGCG, because we don't know what's in the capsules. Even if you are able to find a reputable supplier, you need to monitor your liver function via blood tests as Glenn Sabin did, because a commonly reported side effect was transaminitis - raised liver function ALT and AST test results.

Neil

[Canuck901]

Thanks for the response Aussieneil

[crystalsky]

It took him over 30 years to be clear of CLL in his blood and bone marrow. Taking a natural approach is a much slower road, and some people are in dire straights, and have to start some form of treatment, or they will become very unwell.

However, if someone is not in dire straights, following a plant based diet, and cleaning up every aspect of your life does go far toward healing. Food is medicine. Don't let nay sayers tell you otherwise. What we put into our bodies does impact our health immensely.

As does exercise, which is obvious, stress reduction, etc. My husband and I also juice in addition to following a plant based diet. We are strict in our protocol, but so what? If it keeps my husband healthy and his CLL in check, then that's all the proof we need.

We are bomb barded everyday with environmental pollution, unseen radiation from wireless devices and microwaves, pesticides and GMOs if you don't eat organic, and hormone and other chemicals if you eat non-organic meat, or processed meats. And the list goes on.

When someone develops an illness, it is imperative for them to be vigilant. Even more so than someone who is disease free, but if people want to remain disease free, they should follow the same protocols.

Avoiding harmful chemicals, and toxic ingredients seems like a no brainer to me, and Glenn has followed this same path throughout his 30 year journey with CLL. I do think others can have the same success. He did not have spontaneous remission as mentioned above. It took him 30 years to completely heal his body.

Since my husband is now off Ibrutinib, we are completely on a natural path at the moment. We realize things could change at anytime. But, unless his condition were to become life threatening, we are sticking to it.

Perhaps, Glenn Sabin was the only one brave enough to take such a journey. However, there are others who have sent their cancers, including CLL into remission or complete regression by changing their diet, and their lives. They might be so busy living their lives, they don't have the time to share their story. They are rejoicing in being alive and healthy.

[tsvieps in reply to crystalsky]

Glenn was never without the care of expert oncologists. He was also in his 20s when he first found he had CLL. His switch to smart living and diets are likely useful for everyone. His blog, book, and private emails emphasize that one must not depend on only this to cure any cancer or any disease for that matter.

[crystalsky in reply to tsvieps]

Of course he is going to include a disclaimer.

[tsvieps in reply to crystalsky]

Yes, but his more than pro forma. He is a careful, serious person and deeply believes his cautions. And he did follow himself the advice that he now gives. His book is co-written by an MD who encouraged him to write it. She thought his case was important and should be lost simply because it anecdotal. He cure was not really "spontaneous"; he needed to have his spleen removed. What he did does offer lessons to the rest of us. That said, it is really important to know that just good living practices are almost always not enough.

I also survived quite a bit longer than most people with my flavor of CLL while skipping the recommended FCR. I was willing to die sooner rather than do chemo. This was a personal decision.

My practices overlapped a lot with Glenn's, but I only managed to slow the advance of CLL, not stop it. It only stopped and reversed when I finally managed to access Ibrutinib. I am certain that my own unusual protocol kept me alive longer than most, including those who took the then standard treatment. But I am also certain that I would not be writing this now if I had to wait much longer than I did for Ibrutinib .

We must do everything reasonable to enhance our natural robustness and we must also take advantage of the best proven treatments. We should not ignore the best from Western Big Pharma, MD oriented medicine, nor should we poo-poo the wisdom from 3000 years of careful observations available from Eastern Medicine. That latter is more plant based than laboratory based.

[MsLockYourPosts Passed Volunteer]

Glen Sabin, in an interview about his routine, stated, before he went into what he actually does with the interviewer, that what worked for him could kill the next person. He also worked closely with hematologists.

If you plan to change things up do some research first. Knowing about what might cause your liver numbers to be elevated so they are monitored or what foods might interfere with other medications is important. I finally get to eat grapefruit after 25 years, because misc. meds have been changed (none CLL related) and none of the new ones have the hated no grapefruit sticker on the bottle.

There are a lot of people who have cleaned up their diet in various ways because of a CLL or other cancer diagnosis. It may not give the results Glen Sabin got, but many comment on improved general health or just feeling better. It doesn't have to be something extreme and doesn't have to happen overnight. Make it something that works for you and that you will be able to stick with.

[Raglan]

I’m very impressed with Glen and anyone else like him whose been able to take charge of their own health and follow through.

What he did wasn’t easy it was a lot of hard work and research on his part. He's a good example of someone that would not give up, he stayed focused on helping himself and not relying on others to find a cure for him. I’m totally impressed by him.

His book is a good light read.

[Hoffy]

N of 1 is a great book. I communicated with him recently and he is doing well as far as I know,

Below is his web site,

GlennSabin.com

FONconsulting.com

nof1.com

Be well,

Hoffy