DNR do you get to agree

[tinies]

Today at 12-00 my whole imediate family are being seen by the consultant to agree/ although DNR already signed and in notes to this being my my final wish / only nobody explained that once done clinitians can decide if anti-biotics are apropriate any more that is not how it was explained to me.

[copdliving]

I disagree with DNR and the reason is I have a good friend who was placed on a ventilator about 7 years ago. If she'd had a DNR she would not be alive today. That is my reason for not having one.

I have a will for my possessions and if I am brain dead my family knows what to do.

You can always change your mind and have it destroyed. It's up to you. Make sure YOU make the decision and not anyone else. It is your life after all.

[valm]

Not really sure about this one it's difficult for all concerned, wouldn't like to be making the decision myself Val

[tanyamarie]

You must withdraw it if you change your mind or you are not happy about it. Get all the facts in black and white today at the meeting. You have the option to agree to certain measures being taken and what you don't want to happen.

No one has spoken to my dad about that yet or at least he hasn't said anything to us. Sad thing to discuss but it must be done I can see.

[Milestone]

This should be your decision, not the rest of the family. I would get it withdrawn if it were me - obviously you would have your own views.. Incidentally my mother had DNR on her notes and had not requested it - it was put there by some doctor. When she succumbed to a heart attack in hospital they did not have time to check her notes they just resussitated her.

[Hidden]

If you are not happy with the possibility of a doctor deciding you shouldn't receive antibiotics then I don't think you're ready to sign a DNR. Think carefully and remeber you are absolutely entitled to change your mind and withdraw your agreement if it's not what you expected. It's a tough one, good luck!

[katieoxo60]

You sound a bit confused,DNR is strictly your choice and not to be confused with a living will or advance directive.I speak from experience my husband had a living will but when he became terminally ill at the end ie a few days before his death he had to in my presence give permission for DNR to be put on the record as well.Please remember a living will allows you to be treated with anything that makes your discomfort more bearable. DNR is when your heart stops and they make no attempt to resuscitate. Antibiotics are for symptom relieve and resolution of infection. Hope my comments don't upset you but you do need the hard facts before making such a decision and as already said you can change your mind at any time. I have a living will but its not a DNR instruction . Hope this helps and good luck with resolving the doubts at your meeting.

[tinies in reply to katieoxo60]

DNR gives the rights of any treatment to the cosultant even anti-biotics and the removal of food and water and other medication, I have sorted my DNR with my consultant and agreed boundries on medicatioin and food/water I have made my decitions from being very informed.

[katieoxo60 in reply to tinies]

Glad to hear you got everything sorted out with your consultant and with full knowledge which is how it should be. But as you see there does seem to be some confusion on this page as to what DNR is hope all goes as you would like in future.

[Hidden]

i watched a film made by a New Zealand film crew about the last weeks of Martin,a man who had COPD.

the film was basically showing that you have choices in your care - it was a moving and very good film.

the man on it, martin,did not want to be resuscitated if his illness became too much and his wishes where respected.

i would like it noted DNR on my records and have told my family the same.

here is the link for the film if anyone would like to watch it - it is a hard film to watch but very well made with excellent input from professionals including Martins consultant.

vimeo.com/39258619

[tinies in reply to Hidden]

I will try and find the time to watch this film thanks

[angel160560]

i have never heard of DNR ? would be grateful if someone could explain...

[tinies in reply to angel160560]

DNR is a thing put on your hospital/drs notes which means you would not be resusitated in the event of a heart attack or respatory aresst . It is decided by the consultant with or without your knowledge you do not have to countersign the order, or agree to it , please read the GMC directive for drs on DNRCPR Rose

[maureenv]

DNR is a document kept in your hospital notes which has to be signed by the patient and witnessed by a Dr. DNR means Do Not Resucitate in the event of the patients heart stopping. The document stays in the patients notes until they A) die B) change their mind and ask for it to be removed.

Maureen

[tinies in reply to maureenv]

Have you had to sign your DNR as i have not and mine was filed yesterday Rose

[Fantasy3]

Just watched this film....so sad.x

[Hecter]

Just watched the film.Brilliant but sad.My sister died 4 weeks ago of cancer and the palliative care was excellent.I just presumed that it would be the same for someone with COPD.Is this not so

[tinies]

consultation over my decition to alow DNR amd no artifical ventolation to stay on my notes my children were a tower of strenth for me you do not have to sign anything as ultamatly it is the consultants decition and not yours to make go and read the genral medical councils directive to drs. Pallative care kicks in next week, so i will see how good it is then. I have the promise that all anti-biotics will be given unless i decide i dont want them and all care to the end is more easy tonight as it is all out in the open I have a fantastic consultant, who spares all the time explaining i have made an informed choice both from my own recherch and from the consultant,i feel happier tonight that i will get the death i deserve pain free.

[angel160560]

thankyou for claryfing dnr for me, didnt think about myself in this at all...