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This puzzle had me baffled for hours, but it's actually quite simple . . .

Take 10 kilograms of tomatoes with a water content of 95%..

Spread them out in the sun.and wait until their water content is down to 90%.

What do they now weigh?

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9.95 kg

jools profile image
jools

9.5kg

DozyDormouse profile image
DozyDormouse

9.5kg

stilltruckin profile image
stilltruckin

Nobody's got it yet. You're not looking at it the right way . . .

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johnwr

9.4736Kg

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Quintus

10kg

4 kilograms, because mama Rina used the rest to make tomato sauce for the spaghetti :D

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stilltruckin

All incorrect, but BlakeyC gets a merit for showing her workings . . .

in reply to stilltruckin

go on you..... :) .....so tell what is the real answer?

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O2Trees

not yet, I'm still working on it . . .

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O2Trees in reply to O2Trees

9 kilos ???

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stilltruckin in reply to O2Trees

Nope. Are you just guessing?

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O2Trees in reply to stilltruckin

Nooooo, or maybe kind of. I figured the 90% would be 90% of a new weight, then i gave up. Too exhausting. Maybe its staring us in the face.

10 kgs??

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Try again Wendells, Quintus already said that one.

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Now I'm blind as well,lol.x

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Oh Carrots, hope you are feeling a little better today Wendells?

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BugsBunny

Is it 4.5 kilos?

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BugsBunny

Original tomatoes 9.5kgs water and 0.5kgs pulp.

With dried tomatoes 90% water 10% pulp.

Pulp does not change so 0.5kgs pulp = 10%

To get weight of 90% water 9 x 0.5 =4.5 kgs

Total weight of dried tomatoes 5kgs

So answer 5 kgs.

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stilltruckin in reply to BugsBunny

Yes, well done! To put it simply, if 10% (the dry-tomato-stuff) weighs 0.5 kg then 100% = 5 kg.

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O2Trees in reply to BugsBunny

Respect :)

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Quintus

Another try 9.48kg

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stilltruckin in reply to Quintus

See above. My first attempt was to say 90% of the 9.5 kg of water = 8.55 kg plus the 0.5 kg of dry-tomato-stuff = 9.05 kg. The correct answer is so counter-intuitive, isn't it?

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sadie1951

I did actually know the answer immediately but had a feeling bugsbunny knew too and decided to let her take the glory ;-) Lol - I didn't even understand the working out! Well done bugsbunny! Sadie xx

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Quintus

We'll done bugs bunny. My husband got the right answer and I didn't believe him.

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KingoftheCocktails

I was still trying

KOTC

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stilltruckin in reply to KingoftheCocktails

I've got another . . .

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KingoftheCocktails in reply to stilltruckin

You will be testing me to the limits

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stilltruckin

One in every thousand apparently healthy people are in fact infected with a deadly disease. Once the symptoms begin to show it's too late, but the disease has a long incubation period and can be cured if caught early.

There is a test that can detect the disease before any symptoms appear. The test is 98% accurate. It has a zero false-negative rate - i.e., if you are harboring the disease it will be detected without fail, but it has a 2% false-positive rate - i.e., 2 out of every 100 people that test positive are in fact disease-free.

If you test positive for the disease, what is the probability that you actually have it?

in reply to stilltruckin

You lost me at "One in every thousand..." :-)

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hufferpuffer

now I'm confused.....

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sadie1951

Well you start off by saying one in a thousand?

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stilltruckin in reply to sadie1951

1/1000 is the probability of any one person in the general population incubating the disease.

The question is what is the probability of a person who has tested positive for the disease actually having it, given that the test is not 100% accurate . . .

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kathok in reply to stilltruckin

98%

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sadie1951

Well in that case.....I have no clue!! Sadie xx

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kathok

98%

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stilltruckin in reply to kathok

Incorrect.

peege profile image
peege

Er, 2%?

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stilltruckin in reply to peege

Nope

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peege in reply to stilltruckin

I give up then!

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stilltruckin

Just like the first one, it's basically a very simple calculation . . .

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Quintus

80percent

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Offcut

50,000:1

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silversurfer

0.5

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mustcarryon

Oh gosh, this is all beyond me, never good at anything to do with maths. Can we talk Macbeth or king Lear?

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stilltruckin

Massive hint . . .

How many false positives would you get if you tested 1000 people?

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sadie1951

20? Sadie xx

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stilltruckin in reply to sadie1951

Yes, 2% of 1000 is 20. Therefore . . .

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sadie1951 in reply to stilltruckin

.98%

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libby7827

20? Sadie right? xx

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stilltruckin in reply to libby7827

Yes indeed. And so the answer to the puzzle is . . .

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peege in reply to stilltruckin

another wild guess then 0.2%

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sadie1951

.98%? Sorry, am hopeless.

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SusieQs

My head hurts thinking about it! x

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libby7827

I'm numerically challenged!! x

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stilltruckin

You're teasing me, aren't you?

You know that 1 in 1000 actually has the disease, and that 20 of every 1000 tests are false positives.

But you really have no idea how probable it is that someone who tests positive actually has the disease?

You expect me to believe that?

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sadie1951 in reply to stilltruckin

Sadly, no not teasing. I'll go with Peeg, .2%! I bet you're sitting there Antonia, thinking how can this woman be so stupid! I wonder myself!! Give me middle english anytime Sadie xxx

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stilltruckin in reply to sadie1951

Ok. I certainly don't think you're stupid, so it's intriguing that you can't see something that seems very obvious to me . . .

If 1000 people are tested for the disease there will be 1 true-positive and 20 false-positive results. Therefore the probability of a positive result being accurate is 1 in 21 (approximately 5%)

Do you see??

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sadie1951

Ha ha, now you've explained it! Anything with a number in sends my brain to spaghetti. Always thought I'm dyslexic.with numbers. I've always had to check, re-check and triple check any numbers I write down, my brain says one thing and my hand says another! Good fun though, thanks. Sadie xx

You know that people who have problems reading and writing have Dyslexia - well I have a similar problem with numbers. It's called Dyscalculia - honest.

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sadie1951 in reply to

Thanks for that, have just looked it up. I used to do my husbands accounts and vat, but it was a terrible chore, all the checking and rechecking. My main problem is transposing numbers, they might all be there, but in the wrong order, and in my head it's impossible. So, we're dyscalculians eh?! The only flaw in otherwise perfect self!! If only ...... :-) Sadie xx

Oh sadie, I could never do that. Give me a list of 6 digits and I can add them up 6 times and get 6 different answers ;-}

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