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Why do you think there is no cure for cancer yet?

chocolatelover_123 profile image

Just finished helping my dad garden and make a bench for his plants. He seems so active but gets tired from time to time because chopping wood is very tiresome. When I look at him, I can’t even tell that he has cancer. It hurts my heart knowing that one day I won’t get to garden with him anymore. It hurts not knowing how much time I have left with him. Which lead me to my question, why is there no cure for cancer yet? Why does everyone have such different outcomes with cancer? Why does cancer even exist? So many questions running through my mind as I see my dad planting some tomato seeds in the soil...

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Shooter1 profile image
Shooter1

I'm looking from the other side. I had plans for years to plant an orchard and vineyard with my daughter and grand kids and now don't know how long I'll be around to be with them. It seems like I show then something new every time we get together and my daughter tells me I can't leave them because I have so much to teach them. Darned aPc is in remission right now and steady. Hope you have years to garden and enjoy your dad and I have years to enjoy my daughter and our time together.

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Collarpurple in reply toShooter1

You can’t leave those grandchildren. Have so much to learn from you. My pray is for you to

Stay steady and on the good course. ❤️🙏

Here's a basic overview presentation on the subject.

worldwidecancerresearch.org...

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Longterm101

Because too much profit to be made treating it

I think since our cells are changing all the time and some go rogue, become cancer, so there is no real way to stop it from happening. Advancement have made it possible to live with it for many years. Survival in spite of cancer . Your dad is not a statistic so he will have his own journey thru this unique for him. Be hopeful as you can be each day.

So try to focus on what you can control. Your outlook , your responses and energy that helps you and your dad live your best life right now. Sounds like you are doing good things right now.

You spending time moving and outdoors with your dad. Eating good whole food that nurtures and helps heal the body. Read inspiring books or listen to podcasts and take breaks from social media since it’s not real life but a small window into others’ lives . This is an important time in your life to set goals and chase your dreams. Your dad wants that for you.

Meditation helps stay in the present- something you could introduce into your dad’s life too.

Talk with your siblings or friends so you can feel their support.

We have a 19 year old daughter going through this with us too . She trusts that we are doing all that we can and keeps hopeful as possible. Hope this helps a little .

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LearnAll

Cure kills the business...so all efforts and money gets funneled into treatments which keep you alive longer but sick so you as a customer remain a customer till death.

More lutamides..new ones...more chemos...more radiations...more toxic drugs....And then tons of bad side effects and now, you need to be treated for those side effects...and for side effects of side effect drugs....the cycle never ends...business keep booming. Families go bankrupt..relationships get disrupted...who cares ? Right...their mantra is Greed is Good.

Maximize profits ! Peace, sense of security and well being of people can take the hind most seat.

So ..Is cure possible ? Absolutely ! But they keep repeating continuously 'Its incurable" Because fear of suffering and death is powerful and allows them to enslave you even more.

Now..you lose the confidence to say.."F.. it.."

Whats the Solution ? Most of the resources need to be diverted to research about optimum health, solid immune system and finding and removing causes of cancerous changes in human cells. Individualizing treatments designed specially for per each man..not just with shepherding them all into blind standard of care.

But then....sorry...business dies...profits plummet...not acceptable..to powers who run the onco- industrial complex....Call me paranoid...if you want...it does not matter to me..as I understand the system very well being part of it for almost 4 decades.

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Farmhand in reply toLearnAll

4th generation drugs: metabolic treatments ...3 bromopyruvate correctly formulated...it is 2 weeks away from receiving IND status. VERY useful small molecule with no toxic side effects (if correctly formulated and administered)....combines well with Standard treatments and makes them more effective at lower doses.We are a lead study for adv. metastatic PC. Been using it for 1.5 years ( IV (port ), oral, bladderwash, low dose suppositories ....no ill effects, we will see if it prevents resistance to AD. We have used it to treat many of our sled dogs for cancer with outstanding results.

No real money in it for big pharma because the scientist who discovered it and figured out correct formulation wants to make it available at a reasonable price....

Getting it thru the FDA will be challenging only because of the immense cost of clinical trials and needing to raise funds when big pharma is not in the drivers seat.

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LearnAll in reply toFarmhand

So how do you get 3 bromopyruvate ..in what formulation and what brand...is it safe for human consumption ? I may have to study potential mechanism of its action.. probably via changing the path cells produce ATPs.

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Farmhand in reply toLearnAll

We work with Dr. Young Ko....she is an AMAZING person, so lucky and fortunate to have her guidance .They are her own formulations....the raw chemical is not useful.

Here is a link to her website:

kodiscovery.org

Fairwind profile image
Fairwind

A CURE for cancer would DESTROY the medical profession as it stands today. Treating cancer is the foundation of the medical business , and the most profitable..

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Magnus1964

Cancer is not one disease but many diseases. Even prostate cancer is more than just one disease. Individuals respond differently to the diseases and the treatments. That said there is no reason why a treatment could not be found to place some of these cancers in permanent remission. Some of the reasons have been stated above.

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ctarleton

It's an ancient and very difficult question. Remember, the first description of the generic human genome was not known until relatively recently. The foundations of cancer science are probably much more complicated and difficult than the non-biological physics of "rocket science".

You may find some valuable personal insights and historical perspective in reading Siddhartha Mukherjee's book - The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer... or by watching a related talk/video.

youtube.com/watch?v=D4BGYf2...

Charles

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LearnAll in reply toctarleton

$100 Billion funds every years can be a great incentive NOT to find a cure because a cure means NO MORE $100 Billion a year for the vultures inside the Onco Industrial complex... They will probably move to some other line of business leaving the field of cancer research to genuine, honest researchers and companies really focused on real treatments leading to permanent remission. Vultures are interested only in fields which have filthy amount of funding.

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Lettuce231

Hi chocolatelover,

You don't say old Dad is, but he sounds very similar to us all who share this burden. But may I suggest another way to view your dad.

We all know that death is inevitable in this life, my mother died at age 77, she was exhausted from pain due to leg ulcers, we all loved her and still miss her. My father lived until he was 90, he was always going to the doctors for something. Many other members of my family have died at different ages, some naturally others due illness.

The point I am trying to make is, don't count the days, plan for the years, you can't predict and worry will not help you.

This year due to Covid19 will be the first time that we haven't been able to spend a month with our family, our youngest daughter and our grandson have visited us every year since he was 18 months old, he now coming up nine. Some of those years I was like death warmed up, others not so bad, but on top of this our daughter has no immune system and our grandson is diabetic type 1, we look at them, both so young and pray that they will survive these times and soon a vaccine will be available to protect them.

My wife and I planted many trees in the autumn of last year and I fully intend to stand there, with all my family and watch their progress over many years to come.

So stay positive, look forward to your future with Dad.

Love

Phil X

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ellie2211

I'm with you. I feel the same way about my dad. 💛 Sending hugs

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tom67inMA

I agree with ctarleton , "the emperor of all maladies" is a fantastic read. Don't buy into the big pharma conspiracy theories. Cancer is a disease of damaged genetics. The chemotherapies we have today took 50 years to develop. We've only had the ability to sequence genes and create targeted therapies for a very short amount of time. This should produce huge advances over the next several decades.

Also, it's worth asking what does it mean to cure cancer? Are we talking about killing all mutated cells in the body? Or reversing the genetic damage? Or stopping the mutations from occurring in the first place? Historically, the best way to defeat a disease is to prevent it in the first place. We don't have a cure for measles, but we do have a vaccine. That points to earlier and better detection of cancers as part of the "cure".

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Currumpaw

Hey chocolatelover!

A Goldman Sachs executive let the truth slip out!

Copy the entire wording between the lines.

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Goldman Sachs warns biotech clients that curing patients ...

consumeraffairs.com/news/go......

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Hep-C treatment was wildly profitable until the patient base shrank and shrank---and shrank-----MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!

Currumpaw

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LearnAll in reply toCurrumpaw

The link you gave does not work.

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Currumpaw in reply toLearnAll

Hey LearnAll,

Try with the entire wording between the lines--should bring up the article.

Thank you for your speedy message.

Currumpaw

Cancer isn't fun but if someone said that you (as a man) have to have cancer, and ignoring minor things like basal cell skin cancer, I'd pick prostate cancer. Not hard to detect in the early stages. A number of treatment options available. Colon cancer would be horrible. Pancreatic cancer would be a quick death sentence. Brain cancer? No thanks. Just trying to provide a little perspective. Life is good despite the challenges.

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Miket218

There are more than one hundred different kinds of cancer. And some ARE highly curable, especially if caught in time. I had high grade non-Hodgkins lymphoma in 1990 and was cured of it thanks to big pharma and the University of Alabama Birmingham cancer center.

The potential for cureing any specific patient is complicated by the fact that we humans have significant differences in our genomes and the reactions of our individual genes to various cancer meds.

Don’t buy into the popular nonsensical remarks that camcef isn’t cured only because physicians and hospitals get rich treating it. That line of thinking is pure nonsense.

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