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Hello there!

I wonder if all you experts could help me understand my blood test results. I had a hemithyroidesctomy last month (had a large benign nodule) and these are the TFT results prior to the Op. I can’t have the post op tests done until 6 weeks post surgery (allegedly-is that correct), but will post them once they’ve been done.

Sept

TSH 0.43 (ref range 0.47 - 4.46) below LLN

FT4 13.8 (ref range 10 - 28.2)

FT3 4.7 (ref range 4.8 - 8.1) below LLN

Nov (pre-op)

TSH 0.47 (ref range 0.47 - 4.46)

FT4 13.4 (10 - 28.2)

FT3 4.0 (4.8 - 8.1) below LLN

My GP says my results are Euthyroid, not hypo, but I’m exhausted, permanently cold as and can’t concentrate on anything!

Thanks for your help.

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I am not medically qualified but this is what I think of your results:-

Nov (pre-op)

TSH 0.47 (ref range 0.47 - 4.46) - good

FT4 13.4 (10 - 28.2) - should be nearer the top of the range than 13.4.

FT3 4.0 (4.8 - 8.1) below LLN - is below the bottom of the range when it should be nearer the top. As T3 is the Active Thyroid Hormone. required in all of our T3 receptor cells, you'd feel better if it was nearer 8.

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Yes, it’s correct you need to wait 6 weeks post surgery

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies

Ask GP to test vitamin levels

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Is this how you do your tests?

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or thyroid antibodies or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Thriva Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins By DIY fingerpick test

thriva.co/tests/thyroid-test

Thriva also offer just vitamin testing

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off down to £26.10 if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/thyr...

If TPO or TG thyroid antibodies are high this is usually due to Hashimoto’s (commonly known in UK as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all primary hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto’s. Low vitamin levels are particularly common with Hashimoto’s. Gluten intolerance is often a hidden issue to.

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org/signs-symptom...

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Hedgi in reply to SlowDragon

Really interesting. Thank you SlowDragon. I have been gluten intolerant for 20 years so am now wondering about that link? I can go for my blood test next week so I’ll let you know the outcome. I also didn’t realise I’m not supposed to eat beforehand so that’s really good to know too. Thank you!

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Hedgi

So you likely have Hashimoto’s...ever had thyroid antibodies tested to see?

Your GP needs to go to Specsavers if they think Ft3 result is fine....it’s BELOW range

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Hedgi in reply to SlowDragon

GP said if the TSH is around 0.45 then it’s fine. Can’t help thinking it’s more complicated than that?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Hedgi

Both results pre-surgery were dire... ...likely very low vitamin levels

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking?

Important to stop taking any supplements that contain biotin a week before ALL BLOOD TESTS as biotin can falsely affect test results

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Hedgi in reply to SlowDragon

I take Calcichew + Vit D for osteopenia (is this anything to do with thyroid function?) and turmeric + glucosamine for swollen/inflamed joints (is that related to or pointing to hashimotos?). I occasionally take Berocca but will stop now until I have the blood test done as it does contain Biotin (thanks for that tip too)

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Hedgi

Likely very little vitamin D is calcichew

Berocca is pretty rubbish ingredients

Come back with new post once you get FULL thyroid and vitamin test results and ranges

Medics think only hyperthyroid linked to osteoporosis

But LOW Ft3 due to being hypothyroid also causes osteoporosis

Osteoporosis and low Ft3

thyroidpatients.ca/2018/07/...

Your results suggest central hypothyroidism because TSH is not responding to low Ft4 and Ft3

Some degree of central hypothyroidism is common with Hashimoto’s....because levels hop about so much TSH gives up responding

Central hypothyroidism rarely diagnosed

Central hypothyroidism

academic.oup.com/jcem/artic...

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