WP thyroid issues, Armour success?

[HypoHden]

Hi guys,

I’m wondering if anyone that’s had issues with the fillers in WP thyroid have had success with armour?

I took a bad allergic reaction to WP thyroid, and am hoping armour may help me. Thank you!

[waveylines]

I moved onto Acella NP Thyroid once they changed WP. Acella dissolves under the tongue too. Armour also had changes to the fillers some years back which I didnt get on with but I believe the lower strengths have gone back to the older formula. You might want to check that out though.

[HypoHden in reply to waveylines]

Thank you! So NP doesn’t have to be swallowed? I can just dissolve under tongue?

[HypoHden in reply to HypoHden]

If Taken sublingually, do I have to wait an hour to eat after taking it?

[waveylines in reply to HypoHden]

Not all ndts can be taken sublingually only some dissolve under the tongue. They were all designed originally to be swallowed and that is the way you are instructed to take them.

And yes you need to take on an empty tummy and wait one hour still. This is because even those ndts that do dissolve inder the tongue some meds will still be swallowed in the saliva.

[HypoHden in reply to waveylines]

Thank you! This will help with the issues I get from fillers!

[HypoHden in reply to waveylines]

Did you take armour sublingual?

[Nutty9toes]

I am on 75mcg of Levo, l have noticed the different size of tablets, reverse to what you would think!

The 25mcg by Teva are enormous things but the 50mcg Mercury Pharma which is twice the strength are about a third of the size. I can only think that the bigger 25 must have lots more fillers. I have asked my chemist for 25 MPharma but he says he can't get them only Teva and at the moment I find that Chemists are struggling to get regular supplies of the same makes. Everytime l go to collect my prescription for the other drugs l am on l get a different makes and l struggle with some because of fillers.

[Sharoosz in reply to Nutty9toes]

I was just given Wockhardt thyroxine (25mg) in place of what I had before. I was so nauseous the first day, had to go to lie down for a couple hours. It seems better now but must ask for my regular tablets. Has anyone else had problems with these?

[marymerry83]

I am dealing with allergic reaction bad one from WP in which it affected my nervous system and my hands and feet are either tingling down my spine driving me nuts, or burning, itching and so sore. Been 18 days now back on NP. Does anyone know why I am still having these symptoms. Doctor doesnt know.. Sending me to neuro but I keep telling her it happened after I took WP. Took it for 8 days and it kept making me sicker. Now after 18 days although a tad better, it keeps me crazy like tickling from inside my body. does anyone know how long these reactions can last?

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

I had the a similar reaction to WP , crazy burning in my legs and swelling . Went to a dr and took a lot of tests but they did not show anything wrong. I tried WP while waiting for Erfa to be available again. New Erfa tasted horrible and after some days I got vision problems that I’ve never had before. Will have to get a prescription for Armour now. For the burning it took almost a month to disappear but it was weaker with each day.

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

Thank you so much for your response. I also have it in my hands the tingling in the burning in the tickling up the spine. I also went to doctors the endocrine said it was a reaction and it could take five to six weeks but it drives you crazy cuz you've never experienced anything that would last so long even after you stop taking this medication. Apparently it stays in the system quite a while even though you're back on your other stuff. You are right it is slowly slowly dissipating wow what could be in this stuff to create such a reaction I just don't understand it and you get no responses from doctors cuz they really don't know. Any other information you can give me I greatly appreciate. Anxiety is off the roof because of this mainly because they don't know what's going on. Primary is coming up with all kinds of bizarre stuff quite funny actually. Again thank you for your response and any more additional would be greatly appreciated I'm just trying to understand this stopping at three and a half weeks ago I guess I assumed it would stop then. Thank you

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

I also want tell you I am so sorry you're going through this. Especially your eyes. I had that situation when I try tirosint oh my God. I wish I could be like most people and just take the leave oh and be done with it but I'm not. And I just had a few more questions did it take you a month after Justus kaftar you stop WP and how long did you take the wp 400? I hope things work out for you hi this is just too I can't believe those scan and also my situation I don't know about yours but it would come and go for no apparent reason it was nonlinear which made it even worse. Have a good evening

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

Thank You marymerry83 , I feel for you too, it’s so frustrating. First we have to hunt down a doctor willing to prescribe NDT then we pay a small fortune for the medication (where I live) and after all that effort it only makes us feel worse. I was on Erfa since 2016, no problems at all then suddenly it tastes horrible and gives me side effects. I only took WP for like a week and the symptoms came after only a day or two. Very subtle at first , just tingling at the back of my leg when in contact with clothes. Then from day to day it spread to both legs , burning like I had a chemical peel or bad sunburn. Then it got swollen and felt really inflamed but was not red at all, felt like vein inflammation but they checked and veins were fine.Didn’t have it in my hands but had an episode where my arm went numb for a few minutes. I stopped the WP and it got better but not gone. I waited a week and took WP again just to be sure. After only one day the burning intensified and that confirmed it to me. We have to be allergic to something in WP even though it has so few ingredients. I took at least 40 blood tests but they did not show anything wrong. Had no fewer but felt like fainting a few times - that might just be anxiety from not knowing what’s going on. Hope you get well soon!

[HypoHden in reply to Nemi123]

I would recommend ThyroGold if none of you have tried it. It’s sold as a supplement, but it is NDT. You can buy it online. Per 300mg capsule there’s 100mcg t4 and 25mcg T3

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

I too took the wp for about 8 days. after the first day I felt like a rush run through my arms into my hands and all kinds of weird Sensations down my legs to my feet I should have known then but I thought my body was just needing to adjust. Anyway hope I'm on my third and a half week so hopefully this will be gone in a couple weeks total I pray. It doesn't prove a tiny little bit each day but it's so slow. I'm taking NP which is generic for the armor and I seem to be doing okay with it. Thought I'd try WP though because it's supposed to be very pure and better. Haha am I paying for this one.

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

Sorry I keep adding to the paragraph. Yes it's very expensive where I live I'm in the states. Our insurance doesn't cover it it's like $100 or more.

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

One more question. Was yours consistent or come and go like mine. Also I having stabbing pains in hands,feet no Dr can tell me anything. I do believe you know what I'm going through though cuz you seem to have gone through the same thing yep

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

Poor thing, I know how you feel. I’m usually not the first one to panic but in the middle of this I actually called the emergency services.

First it was only when in contact with clothes or chair/sofa and only burning so it came when I sat down and disappeared when I walked around. Later it was stabbing pain all over in every position like a painful cramp. I could suddenly develop a painful bump that disappeared the next day. What was strange is that it started around knees and back of calves and then traveled upwards with each day. I was sure it was a blood clot at first but dr disagreed as no redness and both legs were affected . It was symmetrical as well.

Wonder if we got a damaged batch or something since I can’t see anyone else having this.

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

How long ago did you take yours? OMG so you had the stabbing wierd pains and it came and went at its own will. I am ready for A&E myself soon. Like I said and you stated it is a wee bit better but it is ever so slow in doing it. I am so glad you didnt get the tickles along with it. That is the worst part.. I read a lot of bad reviews on the new wp. Wish I would of read them before I took it.. I am so glad we are talking. You are my hope and stability right now.. IT is nice to know you are not alone with something like this. It feels like the poison, I call it went all the way to my fingertips. At times I get stabbing pains in fingers and tips....

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

Also I am getting those painful cramps as well. This was one bad batch of something. wow.

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

Yes, we should probably report it somewhere. Are your legs swollen as well ? Dr said it looked like an allergic reaction when he saw mine. Got some antihistamines that I took for two days but it didn’t really help. It’s almost like it has to run its course.

Are you sure that NP is safe for you to use?

I will be asking for Armour during me next visit, so far I’m using the rest of my Thai Thyroid Hope you will get a relief soon.

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

Yes it was recalled because some of the doses were a bit stronger with t3. It never caused any issues like I am having and although so slow, is getting a little better. I was told the wp is in our system for a month even though we only took it for a week. NP is generic for armour...Levo did this to my hands many years ago but this time it is so intense. It does let me sleep at night though, but when I try to use my hands like now, they start either hurting, itching, or tingling.... So you took a month and was that a month after you stopped wp?

[marymerry83 in reply to marymerry83]

My legs are not swollen. All my issues are mostly in my hands and my feet and then in my spinal cord when it starts tingling and tickling to my nervous system

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

Yes , took a month after the last pill. Forgot to tell you my dose: I took 1.5 grain and was using 1grain pills .

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

I was taking 60mg. Nemo I am panicking today. My feet seem worse today. They go from burning to itching internally though not on the skin. Did your doctor tell you why this takes so Long? Or why it comes and goes?

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

You also went back on your old meds right away correct?

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

Yes I did . No the doc had no answer for me except that he suspects allergic reaction. I took the antihistamines he gave me. I didn’t feel it helped but maybe it did.

This must be driving you crazy, there must be something they can give you to dull this itching, maybe an anti inflammatory or something for allergy. We took the same strength (60) , must be a defective batch. Please go get checked again 💚

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

I am working on it. Unfortunately I have a primary that wants me to see a neurologist and that's in 20 days. I will do even though this isn't allergic reaction the Mets they want to give me as amitriptylin in like Gabapentin which is very sedated oh. I want to know what's causing this not I don't want to just treat symptoms but you know like I said every day very minimally gets better like with you but I think it's going to be a little bit longer than a month for me because it'll be a month come this Saturday for me. But hopefully each day a little bit will go away. Never knew a reaction could last this long clear up. I will keep you informed about what's going on here if I get any more answers for the both of us. Did you say you still have it it's just not as bad? And how long has it been for you now? Thank you

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

Hi just checking in. I am doing a bit better but the WP gave me periperal neuropathy... It is going to take up to six months for it to completely go away.. AT least a little improvement each week. Cant believe a med could do this but my research shows lots of meds can cause this. I reported the WP to the FDA here in the states.. Hope you are totally recovered. LEt me know..

[Nemi123 in reply to marymerry83]

Thank You for your update good to hear you are getting better and that they can give you a diagnosis . Great to hear it will pass!

I still feel it in my legs but only mildly, worse after exercise . I’m having an ultrasound next week to check the blood vessels but it will probably show nothing . I will ask about peripheral neuropathy too.

I wish you a speedy recovery !

I will report to FDA as well, just check some more with the doctor first.

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

Yes especially if you're sure please do they told me the more that reports us the better. When I called my endo's office and talk to the medical assistant he looked it up on their computer and he said oh my God there is not one good review here ever since the revised it a year ago. He kept apologizing apologizing to me profusely I told him it wasn't his fault. I am glad you're doing well too but don't get me wrong when I say this I'm glad you're still having a little feeling of this in your legs because it makes me feel like I'm not on this journey alone since we did this in the same time frame and that we both have the same issue and not going this alone I think you understand that I'm just happy we're both improving but I cannot improve fast enough. Unfortunately my hands hurt as badly as my feet and when they start spazzing it goes all the way into my shoulder blades so this stuff must be hit me a lot harder than it did you. I'm seeing the neurologist for the EMG on the 25th I'm just hoping and praying that this continues to get better I just cannot believe this is such a long process but I guess when you get nerve damage the nerves taking real long time to heal. Another culprit that causes this peripheral neuropathy is Cipro and other antibiotics also statins and high blood pressure meds with these people it's permanent. I don't know why but it just seems to be permanent it must fry the nervous system real scary isn't it. Let me know how you fare up we're in this together you and me thanks sweetheart bye

[marymerry83 in reply to Nemi123]

I also wanted to let you know I did a urine tox screen for Paula propane switch is heavy metals my body shows high levels of arsenic the only thing I ingested was the wpi-8 the same Foods as my family here and everything else so again middle range for arsenic not totally off the charts but above normal for arsenic you might want to see if you have that as well from the wp seeing that it's come from China their porcelain so I've Been Told let me know what you do about that.

[marymerry83]

Thanks. Do you have issues as well?

[HypoHden]

Yeah, the only one I can tolerate is thyro gold. All the other ones damage my stomach.

You could try taking l-glutamine 5G per morning and 5G per night for 90 days to see if it helps resolve your symptoms. It will help rebuild your gut lining if it was damaged by the tablet

[marymerry83]

I am going to see a naturopath in a month... thank you

[HypoHden in reply to marymerry83]

I would recommend a guy called Dan Garner, I’ve had all the issues you speak of through another medication. He’s quite expensive, but he’s the real deal. He helps people such as the owner of Pepsi, comedians like Bryan callen, pro athletes like ronda rousey - as well as many NBA stars.

His email is:

[e-mail]

Just send him an email with your issues and he will let you know how he can help

[marymerry83]

I will check him out. So you had same symptoms, how long before yours went away?

[HypoHden]

I still have them, although they have vastly resolved in the 38 days I have been working with dan. I had problems for 2.5 years, then I learned of Dan and started with him as soon as I could.