Help on results as very ill

[Cheekycharlie1981]

So I’m taking t3 at 2.5mcg morning and 2.5mcg late afternoon and levo early morning at 150mcg.

I feel sick on and off constant head pain, very on edge feeling. My eyes when I take the t3 feel like they are darting all over the place. Waking at night.

What should I do about dosage? I know my irons low I’m getting some stronger stuff.

I had emergency bloods last night and here are the results,

TSH 1.6 ranges 0.38-5.5

T4 15.2. 10-18.7

T3 4.3. 3.5-6.5

Iron 8. 9-30

Ferritin 61. 22-322

Any tips on when’s best to take my t3, I’m not sure I can handle full 5mcg in morning.

[greygoose]

Why don't you think you could handle 5 mcg T3 in the morning?

You are under-medicated, and if I were you, I'd increase my T3 by 5 mcg and take 5 mcg with my levo in the morning, and 5 mcg in the afternoon, making sure that all thyroid hormone is taken well away from food, other medication and supplements. Do you take other medication or supplements?

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

I’m just feeling very strong affects from the t3, so that’s why I split the dose. I had a bad reaction to start and felt funny since introducing it.

I’m wanting to change brand as feel the Sigma Pharma is giving me the awful migraines and sickness.

I supplement thought out the day and before bed.

I take my contraception pill at 12 afternoon, iron and vit c 3pm and b12 and flaxseed at about 5. I then take zinc, magnesium and vit d at bedtime about 10pm. I take levo at about 7.30 am and t3 half hr after and again at 4. Any guidance on this please.

Thank you.

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

Any good reports on mylan liothyronine t3?

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

I don't know that brand.

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

You're taking your iron too close to your 4 pm T3. There should be a gap of 4 hours between thyroid hormone and iron.

Is your vit D a tablet or capsule? Vit D needs fat to be absorbed, so usually taken with the fattiest meal of the day. Are you also taking vit K2-MK7?

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

No I’m not taking it with vit k and I have suppa about 9ish so it’s not really near fat. When would u take it? And the iron?

Could I take the iron with b vit at about 6 I eat them my biggest meal of day and take the t3 at 3pm or can it be taken at night?

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

Well, you do need the K2. Taking vit d increases absorption of calcium from food, and the K2 makes sure it goes into the teeth and bones, and doesn't build up in the soft tissues. You can find capsules of vit D and K2 in olive oil, which means you don't need to worry about taking it with fatty food.

Iron is difficult because it needs to be taken four hours away from thyroid hormone, and two hours away from everything else except vit C. with your schedule as it is, everything needs moving around. Is your B12 sublingual? Do you take a b complex with it?

It's so much easier to take all your hormone together at the same time when taking so many supplements. And you haven't even mention the times at which you eat. I would do something like this:

7.30 - levo and 5 mcg T3

8.30 - breakfast

9.30 - B vits, flaxseed

12.00 - lunch

3.00 - iron, vit C

7.00 - dinner, vit D, vit K2

10.00 - magnesium, zinc.

When you're on such a tiny dose of T3, it's often a bad idea to split it, because you're not taking enough to make a difference at either time.

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

My days are up and down I don’t wake till 10am on weekends as I’m so exhausted. Weekdays I’m up at 8.and on Thursdays 6.30. But always wake 7am to take levo, obviously earlier for levo on the Thursday. Any brand recommendations for vit d/k2?

I take a ingennus brand of b vit no b12 sublingual anymore as my levels got in range at the higher level. I’ve no results for these yet.

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

OK, well, you can adapt my timetable to your needs.

Sorry, no recommendations for brands. I don't take the combined one. I just know it exists.

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

Thank you for your help.

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

You're welcome.

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

What ranges should be my t4, t3 and tsh?

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

TSH should be 1 or under, wherever it needs to be for your FT4 and FT3 to be in a place that makes you well. We're all different, so cannot say exactly where anything should be, but most people need their Frees in the upper half of the range.

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

One last question spoken to the hospital head chemist and she thinks given my headaches and sickness to just stick with 2.5mcg in morning and not split it or take full in morning. She seems to think it’s me just not tolerating t3 well but I think not. I’d like a brand change see if symptoms change but not sure how far I’ll get.

My question so you think if I take 5mcg at full dose rather than 2.5mcg I should have no worse a reaction?

Now I’ve my bloods I think the iron is definitely a big factor for my dizzy spells and tiredness. But I strongly think the brand I’m on is causing the sickness and headache. Others report the same feeling.

I don’t want to be taken off t3 as I’ve thought hard to get it. I’ve only been on it 3 weeks so symptoms are usually to start.

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

I don't see why you should have a worse reaction taking 5 mcg all in one go. It's only a tiny dose. And, certainly 2.5 mcg is not worth taking on its own. I very much doubt that you don't tolerate T3, it's more likely to be the fillers in the tablet you don't tolerate. And, I think your symptoms reflect that.

[Cheekycharlie1981 in reply to greygoose]

Thank you I hope that’s the case as I don’t se how 2.5mcg or 5mcg in one go would make me feel worse. I shall take the 5 tomorrow. For two days I’ve had half dose.

I hope they find me another brand soon with no dairy that’s better for me. The head pains certainly come on within 15mins of taking the tablet.

I hope to see the light at the end of a very dark place. But I don’t think the hospital are speeding to get me another brand it’s all money and getting the ok.

[greygoose in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

Well, in 15 mins the hormone wouldn't even be in your system, let alone in the cells where it actually does something. Why not try taking an antihistamine before you take your T3, see if that helps?

[Hidden in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

HypothyroidNomore in a post 12 days ago explains how certain brands may help T3. He is a consultant himself and has had a thyroid problem and has resolved it. He recommends how to cut your tablets up if the dose is wrong to monitor plus it and may have an insight into your T4 dose which has been lowered suddenly .

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