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Hi everyone!

I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's a little over 2 years ago. I have done ALL the things. AIP, GF/DF, all the functional medicine tests, gut healing protocol, supplements, you name it. My antibodies never budge.

One of the few things I haven't tried that Izabella Wentz recommends is Wobenzym.

Here's a link to her info on it:

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

It's an expensive product, especially at 15 capsules a day.

Have any of you tried it? I would LOVE to hear your experiences! I asked my functional dr. about it today & she had not heard of it.

Thank you!

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humanbean profile image
humanbean

I've never tried it, however there are references to it in 14 public posts on HealthUnlocked (some are in different communities to this one). You might want to read them :

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Luna1390 in reply to humanbean

Thank you! I will check those out!

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Ruby1

Are you trying to get rid of your antibodies? It is my understanding that once you have them you can’t get rid of them, though they might at times rise.

Are you still feeling unwell?

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Cooper27 in reply to Ruby1

I managed to get my antibodies within normal range again, so I think it's possible. It's not to say they won't rise again in future, but for now they're ok.

My OH has coeliac disease though, and that's the definition of autoimmune disease: remove the trigger, and antibodies will be fall. It just depends what our trigger is.

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Ruby1 in reply to Cooper27

That’s interesting. How did you manage it? With diet?

I had raised antibodies but I’ve never worried about it nor had them tested again because thyroxine made me feel better.

I don’t know that much about coeliac other than having to occasionally cater for someone who gets hospitalised if they eat gluten ( which I find terrifying).... so I know the gluten is a trigger for the villi, but does it also raise the antibodies?

I suppose what I’m asking is, does gluten raise the antibodies for your husband, and what do you think raises the antibodies for people with autoimmune thyroid disease? What is our trigger?

Or perhaps you don’t have autoimmune thyroid disease which would explain why they’re now within normal range and maybe it was a blip caused but I’ll health.

My head is hurting thinking about all this 🙄🤣 do I even want to know if I’m feeling well? 😂😂

Thanks for listening!

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Cooper27 in reply to Ruby1

In coeliac disease, eating gluten will cause antibodies to rise, and when you cut out gluten, your antibodies fall back into normal ranges. It's complicated though. The antibodies aren't the problem, they're the result of the problem, so getting them back to 0 doesn't mean you're cured, it just means you're managing your problem.

I think it's the same with other autoimmune diseases: I will always have hashi's, but I hope I can stop the damage where it is.

For me, the AIP diet and supplements helped, but I haven't figured out what my trigger is yet. It's a shame it hasn't helped the OP though.

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Ruby1 in reply to Cooper27

Yes that's where I was confused because I didn't think it was the antibodies per se that were the problem.

I guess since I've been stable for well over 10 years now, my antibodies must not be too high, otherwise my thyroid would be worse.... or else my thyroid is completely destroyed and therefore the antibodies will disappear because there is nothing left to attack.

Think I'll go and lie in a darkened room now 😄

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Cooper27 in reply to Ruby1

That is lucky :) my hashi's was causing a lot of issues for me, so getting it under control has made a huge difference.

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Luna1390 in reply to Ruby1

My goal is to slow or halt the autoimmune process. Thyroid meds can help with the symptoms, but the autoimmune process is still happening. Which means other organs and systems can be attacked (lupus, RA, MS, psoriasis, Sjogren's, etc). So I would really like to slow or halt that process in my body somehow.

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Luna1390 in reply to Cooper27

I know! I was so hoping AIP would do the trick, along with targeted supplementation. It didn't do a single thing for me. I am still faithfully GF/DF, though, and only eat fresh, healthy foods. I am glad that it is helping you feel better! :) My thyroid was triggered by pregnancy, so I almost wonder if estrogen continues to trigger it or something? Who knows.

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SilverAvocado in reply to Ruby1

For some Hashi's sufferers just having high antibodies cause symptoms, and they possibly indicate how fast the illness is progressing and damaging the thyroid.

Things like going gluten and dairy free, improving nutrition and overall health can sometimes reduce them.

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cazzaleo

Hi Luna1390

I haven’t tried Wobenzym but just wondering if you’ve tried LDN? Don’t think it’s expensive so might be worth a try ahead of expensive options

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Luna1390 in reply to cazzaleo

I haven't tried LDN. Have you? I have read such mixed things about it that I am nervous to try it.

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cazzaleo in reply to Luna1390

I haven’t. Have been considering it for a while but trying some other things first. I follow some LDN groups on FB and there seem to be lots of success stories (though sometimes it takes quite a while to take effect), and there seem to be very few side effects.

How long did you stick with AIP? Again that seems to be something that can take a while to make a difference. I’ve been doing it for 4 months and have seen a bit of an improvement in symptoms and my antibodies have been steadily declining

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Luna1390 in reply to cazzaleo

I did AIP strictly for 6 months. I kept getting worse rapidly and my antibodies never moved up or down. I switched to GF/DF after that. I had food testing done & my only reactive food was PINEAPPLE. So that was not helpful. Sigh.

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cazzaleo in reply to Luna1390

I know 6 months seems like a long time but I've read it can take 2 years for some people so perhaps its worth doing for longer. I don't think you are necessarily always reactive to the foods that you will benefit from excluding and those tests are supposed to be unreliable - sigh indeed! I hope you find something that helps soon!

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Happy7

Yes I’ve tried Wobenzym, I only really needed 1 capsule before my heaviest meal of the day. Because I’m lactose intolerant, I am now using Dr. Mercola’s full spectrum enzymes, and I’ve never felt better. I had trouble digesting many foods, especially fats. Check out mercola.com

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Luna1390 in reply to Happy7

Interesting! Thank you! Did you find that Wobenzym or Dr. Mercola's enzymes lowered antibodies?

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loisbrucie

That’s something I haven’t heard of , thanks.

I’ve had a great improvement with AIP and supplements, and am now working on removing heavy metals, as I’m mercury toxic.

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Nico101

Have you tried Low Dose Naldextrone and/or Myo-Inositol? Both have lots of very positive results you can look for in PubMed.

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Luna1390 in reply to Nico101

I just started myo-inositol about a month ago. I am interested to see if it helps! I have not tried LDN.

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