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Hi everyone, hope you are enjoying the Bank Holiday, if in the UK??

Just interested to know, does anyone have a hernia and also thyroid condition?

I went to the hospital on Friday for results from CT scan, to check for the "C" word predominately, so went in with one problem and came out with three problems aka Hernia in the abdomen and diverticula disease!! Why do they call everything a disease these days, makes us sound manky!

I also had another contradiction, tell me what you think.....The Consultant says, "You are too high risk of having a general anaesthetic at the moment and having such, would do more harm than good,(respiratory problems) BUT (hence the above wording), have you ever considered weight loss surgery??!" AM I missing something?? I am too high risk of having a general, for a small procedure I might add, but would I put myself through major surgery which would incur a general anaesthetic anyway and possible other complications?? Ummmmn the answer is no. I also have a acute morbid fear of a anaesthetic anyway which is documented and also I do not want weight loss surgery. I am losing weight naturally, at long last.

Totally cheesed off.com

Take care everyone

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MaisieGray

I've not heard 'manky' used since my early years and having moved away from Birmingham 😊 😊 Well, a disease is the presence of an incorrectly functioning part of the body; and with diverticular disease the colon is incorrectly functioning because as a minimum, it's bulging and forming sacs where it shouldn't be - hence it's a disease. 😊

The issue with surgery is that there is always a risk simply in the fact of being anaesthetised and operated on (both subject the body to trauma, to some degree) which may be further compounded by a whole raft of factors, including other medical conditions. So you have to balance the risk against the gain of having the surgery and/or the continued risk of not having it. Hence you might be advised against having surgery for a minor procedure if the need for that surgery, or its benefits aren't great relatively-speaking; yet more substantial surgery be carried out if the need or benefits are greater. It's about the bigger picture, not simply the scale of the surgery to be performed.

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JOLLYDOLLY in reply to MaisieGray

Living in Warwickshire for so long prevously, where I got ""Manky" from lol MaisyGray.

The minor surgery is the main issue, regarding the diverticular that was only found after the second CT scan and has not given me any problems over the years.

I think the fact I have been told that I am at high risk for a general anaesthetic overall, is my concern.

At the end of the day, the initial problem, should have been dealt with last year when I was rushed into hospital with sepsis, but it wasn't. It was a misdiagnosis as well. So needless to say, my life has been blighted by it. :(

Take care

:)

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NWA6 in reply to MaisieGray

😂 I use ‘manky’ or ‘Mank’ all the time! I’m Irish ☘️

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JOLLYDOLLY

They did not specify the name of the hernia tbh. They say it is large, which is better than a small one, so should not give me any problems??? (I won't hold my breath). To fair, I have suspected I have had one for a while, so did not surprise me. As I have respiratory problems, I tend to have a lot of coughing fits, so that has most probably not helped.

So has your husbands hernias come back then? Regarding the diverticulitis, it isn't inflamed at the moment, so has not got to the "litis" stage. All she said was it was the joys of getting older and very common.

The only thing I have noticed more, is I occasionally get heartburn but no reflux, apart from last night, which was the first time.

Take care :)

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nightingale-56

I have not had a hernia, but have had a torn ligament in my stomach and my right knee.

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JOLLYDOLLY in reply to nightingale-56

I bet that hurt j_bee! How did they fix that? Are you ok now?

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nightingale-56 in reply to JOLLYDOLLY

The stomach ligament was found in 1979 and I ended up with a hysterectomy because of period problems. This was eventually realised as being untreated for being hypothyroid after a sub-total thyroidectomy for graves while 14 weeks pregnant. It could possibly be because I had my daughter too soon after having a caesarean with my son 20 months before my daughter was born in June 1978' The torn ligament in my right knee was in 2001 and I understand we are prone to ligament tears if hypothyroid. It has been discussed on this site in the past. I also had an operation for removal ofovaries three years ago, so don't think age is always an excuse. Doing really well at the moment on NDT. 16 weeks into this treatment and my blood levels are the best they have ever been since sub-total thyroidectomy. Stomach is fine now, but, Yes, it did hurt at the time, as had been walking round with it for a couple of years before it was finally done. I was not operated on until 1981 for the stomach ligament. Wish you well and hope things improve for you soon.

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JOLLYDOLLY in reply to nightingale-56

Does sound painful. I know with thyroid conditions, we do tend to have soft tissue conditions and more susceptible to things including the bowel and stomach.

I have had a lot of gyne problems as well but the small procedure that I am due to have done (ha ha) caused me to have sepsis last year. They have ruled out the C word, although she has retracted a couple of things. All I know is that, I have more photo's of my insides that my outside bits lol.

You take care too :)

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nightingale-56 in reply to JOLLYDOLLY

I had two lots of antibiotics after the Oophorectomy infebruary 2016 and six months prior to that 10 days in hospital on antibiotic drip because they thought it was diverticulitis. When MRI was done (with projectile vomiting because of the medium they used) it was found to be Cysts on ovaries. A special blood test for cancer found this not to be present. This was in November 2015. Best wishes to you.

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SilverAvocado

Hi JollyDolly, I've just been asked by another member to contact you, because you've been talking about thyroid hormone resistance.

I've probably got some form of thyroid hormone resistance, altho of course there's no diagnosis way to be sure what's going on.

My story is that a had a thyroidectomy 7 years ago. Prior to that I had hypo symptoms, but pretty light and I didn't realise at the time. After the op I could hardly move. In bed all the time except getting up to make one meal a day and the toilet. 6 months or so later I had great looking thyroid blood tests, on T4 and T3, but was really no better. Could hardly walk, wash, dress. etc.

Eventually I started on NDT myself. I felt better with a TSH of 100 than I had with great results on synthetics.

I continued slowly raising over the 3-ish years since. I was improving with each increase. But at some point my freeT3 was near the top of the range and on the trajectory I was on I was sure I'd be nowhere like 100%. Actually I was well under 10% still.

It actually took ages to get my freeT3 from very top to over the top. It stayed around the same, raising and lowering a little, for about 6 increases - 3 grains of NDT or so. This might be a symptom of hormone resistance, or it may be within the range of normal, I haven't been able to find out.

At this point my freeT3 is sky high, more than double to top of the range. I've swapped some NDT for T3 and am continuing to improve. I've just got to the point where not only am I able to have a shower or walk across a room, I'm able to do it in comfort.

In a way I was 'lucky' that I've been so ill its obvious my medication isn't right. I can see things are harder now I'm in the 30-40% range. Its harder to justify a raise. I had something like 10 or 15 increases under my belt, with consistent improvement each time, before I took the freeT3 over range. Which also made me feel more confident.

I don't kno how typical any of this is of hormone resistance! Its hard to find out, and the archetypical hormone resistant person has developmental delay, etc. Although I think lots of forum regulars do have some degree of resistance, it just isn't talked about too much.

I'll look up a good book for you.

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SilverAvocado in reply to SilverAvocado

E-Book written by a forum member who has now probably left:

smile.amazon.co.uk/Impaired...

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SilverAvocado in reply to SilverAvocado

Oh dear, the link looks v dodgy, I hope it works for you!

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JOLLYDOLLY in reply to SilverAvocado

Thank you SIlverAvocado,

I can't remember the post about thyroid resistance, to be honest. I think I most probably mentioned that I now have to take T3 (Lithyronine) on top of the T4 only because at the time, my dosages had been completely messed up over the years, mainly in my 30's and 40's. Moving on 15 years plus, I am actually on the right dose of both and coping well.

I will have a look at the link and thank you for taking the time to think of me.

You seem to be going through a hard time. It is certainly no joke this thyroid business is it?

Take care and keep in touch :) x

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SilverAvocado in reply to JOLLYDOLLY

Definitely no joke! Good to hear you're now doing well.

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JOLLYDOLLY in reply to SilverAvocado

Thank you, although my arthritis in my left foot is giving me some jip! :( You take care of you and hope things improve for you too.

Always here for a chat, only a message away :)

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