Vit B12 and Vit D

[1piglet]

Just an update, giving my latest results, taken before I started Dr Lowe’s NDT and then after three months on Dr Lowe’s NDT.

Results before taking NDT – 12 December 2018

TSH-4.24 uU/mL (0.38-5.33)

Free T4-1.15 ng/dL(0.78-2.19)

Free T3-4.24 pg/mL(2.77-5.27)

Reverse T3-0.15 ng/mL(0.1 – 0.35)

Anti-TPO-5.70(0.25 – 9.00)

Antitiroglobulina-17.22 (0.90 – 4.00)

Cholesterol Total-314 (140 – 200)

Trigs-108(89 – 150)

HDL-82(40 – 60)

LDL-200(10 – 130)

Ferritin-80.4(10 – 120)

Results after taking NDT for three months

TSH-0.75mcU/mL (0.25 – 7.00)

Free T4-1.08 ng/dL (0.70 – 1.55)

Free T3-5.96 pmo/L (4.00 – 8.30)

Cholesterol total-248 mg/dl (Less than 200)

Trigs-83 mg/dl (Less than 150)

HDL-73 mg/dl (Less than 60)

LDL-159 mg/dl (Less than 130)

Vitamin B12-345 pg/mL (180 – 850)

Vitamin D 25 – Hidroxi Colecalciferol 31.60 ng/mL

Deficient: 0–10 Insuff: 10–30 Sufficient: 30–150 Toxic: more than 150

Ferritina-70.58 ng/ml (15 – 150)

Folate-8.30 ng/ml (2 – 19)

I have definitely had an improvement on this treatment, but I am not there yet. I am still taking only on one capsule first thing in the morning an hour before food. I think I am a bit nervous to take another one as that means it will go up from 50 mcg of T4 and 12.5 mcg T3 to 100 mcg of T4 and 25mcg of T3 – it just seems a big jump. So I shall hang on until we go back to England in the summer and I shall try and make an appointment with a recommended endo then.

One big thing for me was the fact that my Cholesterol went down from 314 (8.12) to 248 (6.41). My cholesterol has always been a problem for me – even with statins it doesn’t go down to what my doctor would like and as the statins don’t suit me, I am always fighting to stay off them and I haven’t taken them for over a year now – so very pleased with that result.

The reason for this post is that my B12 and Vit D are both still on the low side, as has been pointed out to me before, so I spoke to the nutritionist at the company that I buy supplements from re the B12 and she suggested that I take 1000ug (Methylcobalamin), one per day, and after that go on to a high strength B complex only. But when I took the B12 1000ug, I was sooooo ill, I had only taken 5, but I had to stop – it went straight through me, to the point that I couldn’t leave the house. I was so disappointed – does than mean that I have an allergy or an intolerance of B12? Or should I just try a lower dose?

The second thing is that I would be grateful if someone can tell me which Vit D3 works well for them.

I was prompted to write this post because of a reply from Slowdragon to someone else who was struggling to sleep (and that is one of my biggest problems) – explaining that Vit B12 and Vit D could contribute to the inability to sleep.

Thanks once again for all the help I receive here.

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

I raised my severely deficient Vit D quickly with Doctor's Best softgels.

Someone posted this a couple of days ago, had excellent results with a sublingual D3

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Don't forget that D3 has important cofactors - magnesium and Vit K2-MK7.

Did your sublingual methylcobalamin contain a sweetener? Many sugar substitutes cause diarrhoea.

Why not try a B Complex rather than just B12. Your B12 is low but not dire, so maybe you don't need 1000mcg B12. Recommended here - Thorne Basic B and Igennus Super B.

Dr Lowe’s NDT - Thyrogold? What strength?

If 150mg strength, open a capsule and use one and a half rather than two capsules. You can reseal the capsule to take the next day. If you are unsure, I understand that Tammy is willing to answer questions so you could email her.

[1piglet in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thanks so much, SeasideSusie, I will get the vitamins that you suggest - including the Vit K2-MK7 - ordered and see if I can get some sleep! I have taken magnesium for some time now to help with my sluggish system and it has been really helpful with constipation, but I checked my magnesium with my last lot of vitamins tests and it was at maximum, so I have knocked that on the head for a while. I take 150mg of the Thyrogold - that's a good idea splitting the capsule, I shall try that. I have emailed Tammy in the past and she is more than helpful, I am just very aware that she must be very busy! Thanks again for your help.

[janeroar]

Hi I’m sensitive to vitamin b12 too and the formulations are very strong. Agreee with SeasideSusie about trying a supplement which has the range of B’s in it. I’m using this one now. It’s relatively low percentage RDA but it suits me which means I take it every day. I like the fact it’s derived from food so not chemically derived. Re D12 I like the spray sublingual ones. They seem to get absorbed better. Again there are some which you can get now which are food grown. Expensive but worth it I think. Good luck.

Vitamin B Complex Whole Food Plant Based Cultavit (120 Capsule Pouch) amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MWCJ2HR/...

[1piglet in reply to janeroar]

Thank you for your input, Jane, I shall look into your suggestions. Thanks again for your help and good wishes.