Pain in muscles

[Cody6711]

I had back and knee pain last August went to doctor n September done full bloods all fine except under active thyroid started on 25 eltroxin increased at Xmas to 50 had bloods done last week waiting for results will possibly increase to 75 pains all over thighs knees back shoulders and stiff neck any one have any thing like that

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Have you had Vit D tested? Muscle and joint aches and pains can be caused by low level of Vit D.

[Cody6711 in reply to SeasideSusie]

No wasn’t done

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Cody6711]

Either ask your GP to do it or do a private one, either included in the ULTRAVIT test that SlowDragon has mentioned or vitamindtest.org.uk/

[Cody6711 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Ok thanks

[SlowDragon Administrator]

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also extremely important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if Thyroid antibodies are raised

Low vitamin D is EXTREMELY common.

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. Last Levothyroxine dose should be 24 hours prior to test, (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw). This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Is this how you do your tests?

Ask GP to test vitamins and thyroid antibodies if not been done

Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies or all vitamins

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random

[Cody6711 in reply to SlowDragon]

Yes that how it done thanks for your help

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Cody6711]

Getting full Thyroid and vitamin testing via GP or privately is next step

Post Thyroid results and ranges once you get them

Guidelines on treatment

cks.nice.org.uk/hypothyroid...

The initial recommended dose is:

For most people: 50–100 micrograms once daily, preferably taken at least 30 minutes before breakfast, caffeine-containing liquids (such as coffee or tea), or other drugs.

* This should be adjusted in increments of 25–50 micrograms every 3–4 weeks according to response. The usual maintenance dose is 100–200 micrograms once daily.

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Are you taking any other medicinal drugs, or, have you been prescribed any in the past?

[greygoose]

Have you tried taking zinc? Low zinc can cause muscle pain.

[posthinking01]

Yes me - Low adrenal hormone causing this (in my opinion) - see document here - re adrenals and muscles - I have to attend an osteo regularly for treatment on these muscles and I know how my adrenals are doing by these muscles.

Adrenal Gland–Related Muscles

Dr. Goodheart identified five specific skeletal muscles which are related to adrenal gland function. These are 1) sartorius, 2) gracilis, 3) posterior tibialis, 4) gastrocnemius, and 5) soleus. There will be weakness in one or more of these muscles when the adrenal glands are malfunctioning. Because of the attachments of the sartorius and gracilis on the pelvis, (sartorius—anterior superior iliac spine; gracilis—pubic ramus), their persons with adrenal stress problems may allow the sacroiliac joint to subluxate posteriorly. The sartorius and gracilis stabilize the innominate (one side of the pelvis), holding it in an anterior direction. Many persons with hypoadrenia seek chiropractic help for the care of sacroiliac pain and/or low back pain which is due to the lack of pelvic stabilization normally provided by these muscles.

The sartorius and gracilis have a common insertion (along with the semitendinosis) on the medial side of the knee and rotate the tibia medially on the femur. When weakness of these muscles occurs, there is a loss of stability on the medial side of the knee. The sartorius and gracilis (along with the semitendinosis) act as dynamic ligaments, protecting and supporting the medial knee joint during various ranges of motion. Their function is particularly important in situations where the knee ligaments alone offer inadequate support.

It is very important to check for hypoadrenia in any person with knee problems. One can see how one hypoadrenic person will present with knee problems and another with back problems, and some persons will have both.

Due to the relationship of the posterior tibialis, gastrocnemius, and soleus to the stability of the foot and ankle, many hypoadrenic persons will complain of symptoms of tired feet, weak ankles, or aching calves. The posterior tibialis holds up the medial longitudinal arch of the foot, especially during gait. In some persons exhibiting hypoadrenia-related weakness of the posterior tibialis, the medial arch will drop, causing a pronation problem and strain to the foot and ankle. The one common factor in persons with the above-mentioned musculoskeletal complaints will be the weakness of one or more of the five adrenal gland related muscles accompanied by improvement of their symptoms following treatment of the adrenal glands.

The adrenal gland cortex produces three major categories of hormones:

1. mineralocorticoids,

2. glucocorticoids, and

3. gonadal (sex) hormones (testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, etc.).

Depending on the relative amount of depletion of each of these hormone groups, one will see varying symptoms in the person suffering from stress-related hypoadrenia.

Hope this helps

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[posthinking01]

Sorry forgot to add - taking at least 1,000 mg of Vitamin C will help - as the adrenals contain the most vitamin C than any other organ in the human body and needs it to actually function. Vitamin C and antibiotics warning - Vit C can increase the potency of antibiotics so be careful at that time which is a shame because that is often when we need it most.

[jgelliss in reply to posthinking01]

In addition if you don't mind me adding to your great and very helpful informative post . I would add B-Complex , B-5 , Celtic Sea Salt for Adrenals/ Electrolytes . Sleep ,relaxation lots of laughs . Going gluten dairy sugar coffee free is helpful too .

[posthinking01]

Totally agree - B vitamins feed the adrenals - B5 does too - gluten free did not agree with me I'm afraid as too many chemicals in the gluten free products.