Poor Dr Kendrick and the other ‘deniers’ the dreaded DM has got them in it’s sights now.
Oh dear, the knives are out: Poor Dr Kendrick and... - Thyroid UK
Oh dear, the knives are out
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I think Dr Kendrick will have done his research well.
Just like Dr Skinner and Dr Peatfield who were pursued for treating 'patients' and disregarding blood tests in favour of clinical symptoms.
Is this Big Pharma behind DM.
Don’t know but I bet they are. There is an interesting comment On conflicts of interest, “Professor Baigent added, we have a long-standing Policy of not accepting any personal payments from the Pharma industry. Grants have been provided to the University of Oxford from drug companies but our salaries don't depend on that money”
That may be but you can bet their research does which to me is the same thing.
Oh, what a dreadful rag that newspaper is! Newspapers like that will be the death of civilisation! Not to mention the deaths of thousands of people they will persuade to take statins! It's totally immoral. They've been bought by Big Pharma, the most evil industry that has even existed. I'm disgusted.
It is indeed, originally my son and I used to look through it to see who could be first to post their most outrageous story but after a while that lost its appeal. I still like to take a look at their online version just to see what I should be outraged about.
lol You're not the first one I've heard say that! I value my blood pressure levels too much for that. 
diogenesRemembering
This attitude of denial of rational argument by a minority than happens to disagree with the majority is an eternal one from defenders of a position especially one that has made reputations. Rather than take the arguments and counterarguments rationally and dispassionately piece by piece head to head, the medical establishment finds it best to deride opponents without really pondering on what they say - its that they said it, not the quality of what they said. The same is true for our battle with the thyroid establishment. The recent Lancet paper I sent TUK contains the same reluctant acknowledgment of the need for combined therapy in some patients (a very few naturally - to admit it is a significant minority would be bad for reputations) but without abandoning the basic TSH paradigm or the overall need to completely rethink the basis for diagnosis and treatment. They are acting like sailors in a sinking boat, putting a patch over one leak while disregarding the water pouring in elsewhere. FT3 measurement is still out in the cold.
Toxic journalism...but I'm guilty of scanning the on-line version too, for the same reason and much to the disgust of my family! Bad science, the scientist tells me!
I refused statins, told my GP that my cholesterol level 7 would drop after I started taking T3 (self medicating) It did very quickly! No further comment from GP.
Maybe, a big maybe, there are a very few with a massively high level of cholesterol that may benefit from statins I don't know, someone better informed may tell us.... but if such a group do benefit it is no justification for using that criteria to dose the rest of us who are not in any danger. Oooops... collapse of profits.
Time the dinosaurs pulled their heads out of the sand, cleaned out their ears, realised this is the 21st century and listened to updated ideas.
Well well....
Was distracted.....my husband started to read an Observer article to me about the growing trend for the injection of large quantities of vitamins for what sounds like spurious reasons....is there no end to the madness.
Off to find the on-line version
Sorry.....brain gone into grasshopper mode!
Thanks for posting Fruitandnutcase
DD
PS Found it
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in reply to DippyDame
People with familial hypercholesterolaemia may benefit from them. Particularly homozygous for relevant genes. They used to die in 20s/30s without statins, but now may have normal life expectancy. No issue is black and white.... it would be a shame if they were dissuaded from taking a potentially life-prolonging treatment due to hype about statin side effects. I am sure no drug is perfect and better treatments may come in future... perhaps genetic ones, who knows.... (I have no links with pharma, just saying!)
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DippyDame in reply to
Thank you Hidden I had a feeling that in amongst all the research there must be some truth re benefit....pleased to discover what that is. I agree, no issue is black and white.
Statins clearly have value then...but arguably to fewer people. The majority may be better served by changing their life-style!
Zephyrbear in reply to
My husband has this familial hypercholesterolaemia and was on Simvastatin for years... it did very little for his cholesterol levels, but gave him Type 2 Diabetes and several other highly undesirable side-effects, including muscle weakness. He stopped the statins and everything, apart from the diabetes (which is controlled by diet now) has gone. He will never use these disgusting substances again!
in reply to Zephyrbear
That is very unfortunate, I hope his health has improved and he has a good lipid specialist. A lot of people don’t have side effects though and there is a lot of evidence that they do significantly improve outcomes when looking at certain populations. What will hopefully improve in future, is better identification of the people who benefit from treatment, as there is no doubt many people are treated who may not benefit from them and some are not treated who would. There is some evidence that there are genetic polymorphisms associated with statin-induced myopathy. I expect over time gene targeting therapies and more of a precision medicine model may come into play... but we’re not there yet and have to work within the limits of our understanding and available treatments. There may be an increased association with diabetes in some people treated with statins (shown in some studies), but it is not well understood. In any one individual it would be speculation to say a statin caused their diabetes, as there are many potential causes, though it may be a factor. Unless they are an identical twin who has had the same environment exposures, lifestyle, diet, stress etc; one has a statin and one doesn’t. The statin taking twin develops diabetes, the other doesn’t....that seems a fairly good indicator of cause!
I saw something about that last week- not sure if it was in the online Guardian which I look at as well as the dreaded DM (got to keep a balanced viewpoint) it’s total madness. I mean NAD - £500 - three hours to administer and “It causes an uncomfortable tightening in your head and chest,” he explains, “but that’s normal”.
Madness - I notice his treatments offer ‘brain boosting’ properties! Sadly not common sense boosting properties.
How can anyone do that to themselves?
Sad to see the mention of Andrew Wakefield - who is well into his journey of being proved to be right after all these years. I recently watched a video of him being interviewed by Del Bigtree in the on-line series Interconnected. There is an older similar interview on YouTube.
He is no longer a victim but fighting back. The Reporter from The Times who caused the trouble in the beginning was of course working for Murdoch. Murdoch's son was working for the Pharmaceutical Co that produced the vaccine in question at that time. Wakefield held the clipboard monitoring the research done by the other guy who regained his licence to practice. The truth will out if only we have time ... I have always supported Wakefield having survived gut TB after the TB vaccine - followed by Crohns. Do watch the video before giving me a hard time. 😊
They're still at it Marz. There's a small article in today's Sunday Times about Wakefield and blaming him for an increase in measles cases in the US.
I don't really know why they are so obsessed with measles. When I was a kid it was normal to get measles and very few kids got seriously ill. I ended up short sighted and my SIL is slightly deaf, but that's not that drastic. If more people who get measles now are dying than 50+ years ago, perhaps we should be looking at a) their diets b) their lifestyles (exercise/fresh air/etc) and c) the treatment they get to see why their immune systems and general health are so much poorer
My father’s elder brother caught measles as a child and was profoundly deaf from then on. It was a shame, he never married and had a lonely life. My father was born in 1914 so we’re going a long way back.
How shocking. The combined Measles Mumps & Rubella vaccine came to pass at that time - had been individual jabs before then. That seemed to herald the problems. Penny pinching again ...
The increase in measles could be due to parents questioning all vaccines in the US currently and the many court cases and millions of dollars in compensation swirling around. How it has anything to do with AW beggars belief after all this time ...
It was the ST that targetted AW all those years ago - so just upping the pressure as his innocence gathers momentum prior to legal proceedings.
I read in some mainstream paper (can't remember which) that most of the US measles cases had been at least partially vaccinated, so perhaps it's the "it-can't-be-polio-as-they've-had-the-jabs-but-it-really-looks-like-it" in India
Me too - think it was in one of the many Newsletters that pop into my Inbox from the US ... In the video I mentioned above Wakefield talked about the mumps vaccine that caused meningitis ... it was withdrawn - ummm.
EDIT:
You’re right, I think the problems here started when all three vaccines were put into one. That’s a huge amount for a little person to cope with. People who could afford it had individual injections like always used to happen. I haven’t heard about that for a while though.
Was very shocked to hear the BBC reporting on AW in such a biased and one-sided manner the other morning. Actually referring to anyone doubting vaccines as 'spreading anti-vaccine propaganda'! Strong words from a company who spends licence-payers' money..... Grump grump.... xx
The DM paraphrased Donald Tusk’s ‘special place in hell’ comment for ‘vaccine deniers’ yesterday. I thought that was really shocking.
I feel that the BBC are becoming far too political these days, it’s time they just produced decent, unbiased programmes for the public to enjoy watching.
Everything they do nowadays seems to have either some sort of PC bias or else it’s advertising someone or another’s new book.
We pay a licence fee because it is meant not to be a commercial enterprise but they are always plugging something or another. The BBC drives me mad these days. Well, lots of things do😱
There were no vaccines for measles at all here until 1968 and it was not considered a dangerous disease. So why is it now dangerous when there are vaccines. Surely if the vaccines work, only the unvaccinated are at risk (and that's their own fault). Most of the elderly will have had measles the natural way and have natural immunity.
I wish the thyroid community had someone like Dr Kendrick to fight our corner, they might stir up the situation a bit on our behalf!
A relative of mine has started keeping the health section of the DM for me and I've been shocked at some of the coverage, which often flies in the face of what we know to be true (example from the other week: that people don't have magnesium deficiency and don't need to supplement). The thing that surprises me most is that Dr Michael Mosley and his wife, Dr Claire Bailey, write for the DM, which suggests that they concur with the information in these articles. Yet, as we know, Dr Mosley often challenges the medical status quo in his TV programmes. Conflict of interest?
I think big Pharma’s tentacles spread a long way. Michael Mosley just wants to sell books. I used to think he was good but I think now he just looks for the next big thing.
He is getting to be one of the brigade who would turn up for the opening of an envelope - saying that I have a friend whose husband is a consultant and who met him at a function and who said he was absolutely lovely.
Reminds me of the Doctor in the House programmes - where Rangan Chattergee does NOT cover Thyroid - I guess he has to conform. Many of the people featured look very hypothyroid and there was some controversy about one person being Hypo but not mentioned on the programme ...
Yes, I remember one woman who was definitely hypo, They sort of mumbled over what he did and only concentrated on B12 - I bet he gave her NDT or T3.
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