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What makes you yawn continuously for 5 minutes or so?

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I have generally been more tired in the afternoons in the last month or so but for about a week I had no energy in the afternoon, I even missed table tennis one day, which I would never normally do. That's passed, but this past week in the afternoon at some point I feel tired then yawn continuously for about 5 minutes - this is something I used to do some years ago. Is this just a symptom of hypothyroidism?

For info - currently on 50mcg levo, started nearly 5 weeks ago.

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Can't really help much, Annie, but just wondering if you suffer from migraine? I used to sometimes get uncontrollable yawning before an attack, or even sometime without a proper attack developing.

But migraine can be a hypo symptom as well.

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Thanks.

I used to suffer from migraines, they started when I was about 12 but I never had them often. After going through menopause I only had about 2 a year. I've probably had about 3 in the last 5 or 6 years, or longer. I do sometimes get flashing lights round my eyes still which a doctor said is a form of migraine. So the yawning seems unconnected.

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What little I know about yawning is that you are "gasping" for oxygen. See if taking a walk and doing some deep breathing for about 15 minutes each day - or even twice a day helps with the situation. Even opening a window and breathing deeply might be sufficient.

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AnneEvo in reply to LAHs

I know it's said to be lack of oxygen but as it's only been happening this past week and the fact that I haven't made any changes to lifestyle or diet I thought it may be due to something specific. I'll definitely try opening the window and and breathing deeply.

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Singoutloud

Pernicious Anaemia (autoimmune b12 deficiency) causes that for me especially in the run up to my next b12 injection.

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Peregrine

I used to have periods where I just couldn't stop yawning and my nose would run and my eyes water. I sometimes felt I couldn't get the air I needed and would go outside to breath fresh air. I also felt desperately tired at the same time. This was before and when I first started taking levothyroxine and, later, all the vitamins recommended by the lovely ladies on this website for Hypothyroidism/Hashimotos. Look up 'air hunger', it's one of the hundreds of symptoms of thyroid troubles.

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AnneEvo in reply to Peregrine

Thanks. I wondered whether it was a symptom of hypothyroidism. I've only been taking 50mcg levo for 5 weeks so perhaps that's it. I did have a raft of blood tests when I was prescribed levo as I said I was feeling more tired than usual. B12 is over range, ferritin is nearly up to the recommended (on here) level and folate is fine. The nurse practitioner I saw didn't ask for vitamin D. I've got a test kit from Medichecks for when I've reached 6 weeks on levo - I will go back to doctor's but I don't hold out much hope of further blood tests as my TSH was 3.54 (0.27 - 4.2) so is within the range doctors usually find acceptable.

I don't have air hunger in the way people have described it when I looked it up.

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Peregrine in reply to AnneEvo

No, I was just sharing something I remembered from around when I was first diagnosed. It’s very early days for you. I’m not an expert but I believe it takes at least 6 weeks for levo to kick in properly and before that you can feel weird, I remember feeling very odd at times. Your GP should retest you after 6 weeks and adjust the levo if necessary. I was left on 50mcg and didn’t feel well, managed to get an increase of 12.5mcg and also started taking B complex and B12 at the same time, I was already on D3 but added K2 as recommended, both in liquid form. Also eat 3 Brazil nuts per day for selenium and have recently added a zinc tablet. I’ve felt a lot less tired recently and apart from 1 very stressful week, have managed to stay awake till bedtime. That’s not happened for ages and ages, zombie sleep on the sofa was the norm for me 😊

Good luck to you 😊

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AnneEvo in reply to Peregrine

I know they should test after 6 weeks but with my TSH being in range I'm not holding out much hope. I'm very lucky in that I don't feel ill at all - just feel the cold, tired, never wake up feeling refreshed and a bit of brain fog. Hypo was only picked up as doctor did health check 2 years ago when I was 70. But the symptoms I mentioned I've had for 40 years but one doc said it was like having a faulty thermostat when I said about feeling the cold (you know there's something not right when you wear 3 layers at work and everyone else wears 1). Then some years later when I was feeling tired every day at work and exercise didn't energise me I was told I was slightly anaemic :-/

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Peregrine

Curious why they put you on levo if they say you are in range?

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AnneEvo in reply to Peregrine

I wasn't previously. TSH was 8.6 had few months levo, doctor didn't ask me to come back for blood tests. As I didn't feel ill I wasn't convinvced I needed meds so didn't ask for more but was keeping an eye on TSH. It went up to 9.65. I had a trial of NDT but as I hadn't given levo time prevously, I decided to see how I was with levo only. Hadn't had any NDT for a few weeks when I saw nurse practitioner - she went by my previous results. She only did a raft of blood tests, after prescribing levo, as I said I'd been feeling more tired, that's when TSH came back as 3.4.

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AnneEvo

As I have very few symptoms, if it wasn't for the fact my TSH was 8.6 I doubt they'd think I was hypo due to having so few symptoms. Even then, doc said I was hypo but didn't put me on meds; presumably because TSH was below the magical number 10. Another doctor prescribed levo but as I didn't feel ill I wasn't convinced I needed meds at the time. I still probably wouldn't except TSH kept going up so thyroid is obviously struggling more and more and it would be nice to have more energy and be able to get up earlier in the morning and not have brain fog.

Just decided to do a search. This might be helpful healthline.com/symptom/exce...

This thread has got a bit long and I don't remember if you said you've asked the doctor about it, but might be worth trying x

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AnneEvo in reply to

Thanks for the link. I haven't mentioned it to the doctor as I wasn't experiencing it last time I went. However it seems to have stopped in the last few days - we'll see :-)

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Bloods need retesting 6-8 weeks after each dose increase

50mcg is only a starter dose.

It doesn't "add" to your own thyroid production.

Taking any dose of replacement thyroid hormones tends to shut your own thyroid production down.

So if, for example, your own thyroid was struggling to produce enough hormones for your needs at about equivalent of 100mcg replacement dose, you would Nov start to notice significant improvement until dose increases

We start slowly on 50mcg, (25mcg if over 50 years old)

Dose steps up slowly in 25mcg steps retesting 6-8 weeks later each time until TSH is under 2, and symptoms are improving

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