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From the USA.

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BadHare

Great!!!

Hope they go for the antidepressant pushers next!

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Kipsy in reply to BadHare

Have you heard this morning’s headlines? It makes me furious.

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BadHare in reply to Kipsy

I'm spitting tacks, & wondering how much they were paid.

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I don't think payments were made re anti-d's alone especially in the USA and maybe worldwide as Dr Lowe stated that it was due to corruption that levo and blood tests became No.1 prescription for hypo and, in the UK, in particular, untruths have been told about NDT to which Dr L responded, even thought NDTs were all that was available before levo and people survived. I read that doctors/endos got payments for prescribing.

On principle Dr L would never prescribe levo. Hre also wrote three times to the BTA requesting a response - they never did.

google.co.uk/search?q=rebut...

I believe, too, that Conferences were supported by Big Pharma and other members will respond if I'm wrong.

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BadHare in reply to shaws

I'm still horrified!

I know few people who have taken them for the short term use they're supposed to be used for. I do know several people who have never been able to stop due to side effects, & others, including myself & a close relative, that have had long term health issues from a short dose.

It disturbs me that they are handed out to hypos, or anyone, without checking for nutrient or hormonal deficiency as a cause, or as a replacement for appropriate counselling for trauma.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to BadHare

Many of the modern endos/doctors seem to have lost the knack of knowledge/care of patients. We do also know that T3 is a good anti-depressant yet they will not prescribe to hypo patients. It just doesn't make sense.

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I'm sure this is influenced by their fondness for prescribing lots of other medications, save the one that works. Why prescribe one cheap medication for those misdiagnosed with FM/CFS/ME when they can be paid for 4 or more medications that will never work? I'd be bedridden, & on another handful of useless & dangerous medications every day if not for this website!

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Very true. Instead of NHS it is DIY.

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I just read the following - yet it's handed out to many and I assume without warnings from the prescribers:-

Along with its needed effects, fluoxetine (the active ingredient contained in Prozac) may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking fluoxetine:

drugs.com/sfx/prozac-side-e...

It's enough to frighten the life out of us, I think.

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I didn't take that. A week on memantine (used for dementia) for FM left me with waking nightmares & being afraid to sleep for over four months. I pity the elderly who have no choice in their drug options. The follow up drug was duloxetine. One tablet caused lockjaw, & ruined my sense of taste, still. My relative that took metazapine suffered sexual dysfunction, ballooned, had a very unpleasant personality change, & couldn't cope with work. Some of the effects are starting to wear off after four years, but I fear some are long term.

Most of us on here are painfully aware of how inadequate doctors are with regard to effective treatment of patients. I'm with Professor Healy with regard to the danger of these medications.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to BadHare

It is an absolute horror story, no other word. We trusted doctors but now, through our dire experiences that's disappeared.

I think, and am not medically qualified, that our brains might indeed be changed in some way with anti-d's etc if we've had bad reactions.

I do hope you slowly get your health back. It's awful if people also lose their livelihoods along with their health.

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BadHare in reply to shaws

So much seems to be in control of big pharma & the big multinational food industries, so our bodies & minds seem to be negatively altered by both. The hypocratic oath is farcical when doctors act on incentives to prescribe certain medications, & refuse to prescribe those that are proven to help. It's a sore point re NDT, when neither paracetamol or aspirin would pass current clinical trials.

My health has indeed improved, thanks to you & all the other good TUK folks help! :D

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Have you read Dr Lowe's Rebuttal to the BTA and RCoP re NDT?

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BadHare in reply to shaws

No, but I'd like to, if you have a link?

I solely self-medicate as my endo's refuse to acknowledge my hypo symptoms from a pituitary adenoma, though it still makes me mad that people with a clear diagnosis of hypothyroidism get so little help, & are refused effective meds. it's a huge farce!

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Dr L sent to the Associations the following and despite three yearly reminders before his untimely death, they never did respond.

I suppose they couldn't argue that they were in the right as his was based on science.

thyroidscience.com/Criticis...

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Shameful that they ignored him, though we know he's right!

I skimmed the article, & spotted the highest sample size was 236, which is really not a credible number for an effective clinical trial, so the original reports were scientifically hogwash.

My previous GP pronounced I had FM without a single test for a micro-nutrient deficiency, & at the time I was very low in both D & iron, & probably all the other necessary micronutrients, being too ill to look after myself after chickenpox, plus I was ignorantly eating a lot of unfermented soy. All a recipe for thyroid disaster! It's possibly a good thing that I was never prescribed T4, or believed my GP rather than my senses for long!

Don't like Lowe's Thyro-Gold, though! As much I dislike it's origin, I feel cognitively better, warmer, & skin issue free for adding 20-25% NDT to my T3 when I increase dose in winter. I trust my body's symptoms to tell me when.

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G2G2

Thanks for passing on good news.

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Gcart

How awful , pushing antidepressants on radio this am

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Yes - they are more or less stating that anti-depressants work. Just as they state that levo works for everyone too! Kipsy

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