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Hi folks, I am a member of PAS as I have PA and Vitiligo, I've now got Vit D Def (level 35) I have been prescribed fulitum but I believe this is not the best form of Vit D3, does anyone get a different D3 from NHS if so could you tell me what it is, as Ive refused the Fulitum at the pharmacy today. Pharmacy have mention a D3 called Strivit - does anyone know anything about this form of D3? Thank you.

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bantam12

Fultium is perfectly fine as a supplement.

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SarahFerguson in reply to bantam12

I've been told that there is a particular additive in Fultium E321 BHT which has been banned in certain countries and is not allowed in food for babies. I don't want to take Fultium for this reason so looking for other sources of better D3.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to SarahFerguson

SarahFerguson If you want a D3 supplement that contains absolutely nothing other than D3 and extra virgin olive oil, then there is this one you can buy yourself, the price is very very reasonable bodykind.com/product/2463-b...

Also, the 800iu in Fultium and Strivit won't raise your level, it's barely a maintenance dose. With a level of 35 you need 5000iu daily for quite some time to raise your level to the recommended 100-150nmol/L.

D3 has important cofactors that are needed which your GP won't know about because they're not taught nutrition.

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.

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SarahFerguson in reply to SeasideSusie

Thank you for info.

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SarahFerguson in reply to SeasideSusie

I've just ordered D3 thank you for link. I will also check out K2 , is k2 the only co -factor I need. ? I'm also taking iron and folic acid , will these affect d3. Its all getting confusing when best time to take all meds.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to SarahFerguson

Did you read the link to the cofactor information on the Vit D Council website? It mentions them all.

Magnesium comes in different forms, check here to see which would suit you best naturalnews.com/046401_magn... and as magnesium is calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds.

Iron should be taken four hours away from thyroid meds but also two hours away from any other medication and any other supplements as it affects their absorption.

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SarahFerguson in reply to SeasideSusie

Sorry, my head is spinning with so much info, just got my head around B12 injections and co-factors.

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SarahFerguson in reply to SarahFerguson

My last bloods showed my magnesium/calcium levels are ok, I'm assuming that if I start high dose of d3 these will be affected? I have a pretty varied diet.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to SarahFerguson

As we all react differently, it's not possible to say with any certainty, you could ask your GP to monitor your calcium level.

5000iu daily isn't a high dose. It's a reasonable dose to increase level.

For Vit D deficiency many health authority guidelines recommend:

"Several treatment regimens are available, including 50,000 IU once a week for 6 weeks (300,000 IU in total), 20,000 IU twice a week for 7 weeks (280,000 IU in total), or 4000 IU daily for 10 weeks (280,000 IU in total)."

Which is then followed by a maintenance dose.

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greygoose in reply to SarahFerguson

There is no point in testing magnesium, because it will always be in range, due to the way the body handles magnesium. But that doesn't mean you aren't deficient. Most people are deficient due to depleted soils. So, just take some. :)

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SarahFerguson

I spoke to pharmacy today and she advised there was another two brands that she could order -both are a lot more expensive, one called strivit, I am trying to find out if anyone has heard of it?

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humanbean

Referring to magnesium, the blood test for magnesium levels is not really worth doing.

I think every cell in the body needs some magnesium, and for reasons I don't know, the body prioritises having magnesium in the blood stream. So, if magnesium in the blood falls the body will take it from other cells in the body.

So someone can have an acceptable level of magnesium in the blood and be very deficient in the rest of the body.

As long as people have functioning kidneys, I think the body will get rid of excess magnesium from supplements with no difficulty. Apparently almost everyone is believed to be deficient in magnesium.

The dose for supplementing is roughly 300mg - 350 mg magnesium per day.

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silverfox7

My calcium level had risen to just about the range. It fell when I started on K2 and my dental heath improved as well.

If you take too much magnesium you will get loose stools, much like the effect of excess vit c. So you take it to bowel tolerance. If you live in a hard water area you will have higher calcium to magnesium ratio, which makes it especially important to supplement the magnesium. It's vital for bones. Magnesium is a stool softener and muscle relaxant, so great for constipation and to aid sleep.

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