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Just purchase some T3 from compounding Chemist in Melbourne . Got script from doc. Thought I would try again in a smaller dose with T4. No good, got chest pains and feel terrible. Only 1.25..mg. Will have to give it a miss and keep taking T4 and put up with the side effects. <text deleted>

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Heloise profile image
Heloise

Hi Margjean, what is the dose again? Are you taking 1 pill of 25 mcgs. That's equal to almost one grain or 100 of Levo. What are you trying to do? Raise your dose or just add one and reduce the other.

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Margjean in reply to Heloise

Was on 75 mg thyroxine and was always tired and cold,then was taking 112.5 one day and 75 the next. Still always feeling cold .

The last blood test was in June last year

TSH 1.58 (0.5-60)

FT4 19.3 (11-22.0

It is liothyronnine sodium( Methocel)

I only took the T3 on its own this morning.Didnt take any T4 at all, thank goodness. I am 81 and very very sensitive to medication.

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Heloise in reply to Margjean

What is the T3 you are trying. Is it Uni Pharma? Sorry I see it is compounded but what is the measured dose? Did you mean 1.25 mcgs.? That would be very tiny, hmmmm. A natural desiccated tablet would have much more (9mcgs.)

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Margjean in reply to Heloise

Yes I know it is a tiny amount, but can't even take that.

Am not going to try and take anything else and just realise I will have to slow down and get old gracefully. Will stick with the T4.

Have got beautiful docs they have done all the other blood tests as well last year. Will get another lot done in six weeks when the t4 has settled down again.

I also have not got lactose intolerance,just started this year,am falling to bits.

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Margjean in reply to Heloise

It is from Melbourne Compounding Chemists in Seddon.

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sadhuketki23 in reply to Heloise

What is name of t3 medicine.can you please suggest .

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drll

Hi Margjean

I am also in Melbourne and did a similar thing with a compounding pharmacy last year...a dose of 2.5 mcg slow release and found the same problem as you that I could not tolerate it. I then had a go at synthetic T3 cutting up a 20 mcg tablet in quarters and even that was difficult for me. What I have since done is that I managed to convince my doctor that while 3.14 (0.5-6.0)TSH, 14.1 (11.0-22.0) FT4 and 4.5 (3.2-6.4) FT3 he considered this "normal" I needed to bump up my Eltroxin to 150mcg per day. My latest result is 0.93 TSH, 21.1 FT4 and 4.1 FT3 with the same reference range as before. Didn't he get a shock that all of my levels were still "normal" but that I started to feel better. Still not perfect though, so unknown to the doctor, I have bumped up my Eltroxin to 175 mcg. My concern here is that I might exceed my FT4 because they were already close to the top of the reference range, but I also suspect that it will not have much impact on my FT3 levels. And here is the problem of course, and something I am not sure how to handle when I do another set of bloods in 6 weeks.

Any feedback from anyone on this site would be very much appreciated.

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sadhuketki23 in reply to drll

Can you please suggest me t3 prescribed medicine name .as my GP was unable to find one.i also live in melbourne.

Heaps thanks

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drll in reply to sadhuketki23

Tertroxin=T3. Comes in 20 mcg x 100 in the bottle and costs around $40. I typically try and fill all 3 repeats at the same time but if you do, be aware of the expiry date because that will last you almost a year. I ask the pharmacy to phone the supplier before I fill all 3

to check on the expiry date.

Since that post I have stopped using Eltroxin because I was getting odd symptoms. I am now back to using Oroxine because it has the smallest number of side effects according to the Australian TGA (tga.gov.au) unlike Eltroxin.

...and I do not accept brand substitution. So currently 125 mcg Oroxine at night (75+50 mcg) and 10 mcg Tertroxin with the Oroxine at night and then 10 mcg in the morning. I used to worry about cutting up exactly but have since found it is not, for me at least, critical.

Hope that helps. Please get back to me if you need more support about starting to take Tertroxin. I ive in Carnegie if you want to meet up...

Loy

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sadhuketki23 in reply to drll

Ohh thats great. I am facing problem with endo is not in favour of switiching to t3.so i m dread again 😒.no prescription for t3.

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drll in reply to sadhuketki23

I started my T3 journey with Dr Robert Hanner, YourHealth clinic in Brighton some years ago. He is not an endo but very, very knowledgeable about thyroid and T3 in particular. 95960757. He is not cheap, so you might want to check that out if that is an issue for you. Currently, I have 'educated' my local GP to give me scripts for Tertroxin so I do not need Robert Hanner.

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sadhuketki23 in reply to drll

Check your messg plz.

Thanks and sorry again to bother you

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Margjean

I did write a long reply but it has vanished,I don't know where to

I am having problems being cold all the time ,never get to 37. This morning at 5.40 am it was 35.7 then after at 8.45 am it was 34.6. The highest it has been is 36.5 on Friday after 112.5 thyroxine

Will go back to 75 and 112.5 alternate days

I did try Eltroxin,it didn't agree with me ,went back to Eurotroxsig. I think the amount of lactose won't be a problem now I have stopped having full cream milk and a lot of dairy.Always did have skim milk in my tea. Now using almond milk on my corn flakes.

Found out early this year was lactose intolerance.

I do have Hashimotos and nodules but at last blood test antibodies were very low.

Am worried about taking too much thyroxin as I can't take blood pressure pills ,am taking vit B,fish oil and niacin,seems to be doing the trick,it is a bit high in a morning but after I've been for a walk. Comes good. My husband says you had better keep walking all day.lol

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Heloise in reply to Margjean

That's good you are switching to almond or coconut milk, keep the stomach happy. The adrenal gland has much to do with blood pressure, it also has to do with T3 so maybe the problem is there.

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Margjean in reply to Heloise

Just woke up ,got stomach ,as usual. Temperature is 34.6. Taken 112.5 thyroxine. Hope I feel better today than yesterday. My husband has been up for hours making his pork pies. We can't get the ones like they make in England so he makes his own, shouldn't really be eating them after his by pass last June. He is like a creaking gate and will probably outlive me now,. A lot of my problems are through worry about him and the things he has been through.

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Heloise in reply to Margjean

Worry is not good because it is stress.... and that makes your adrenals produce cortisol and cortisol knocks down thyroid. It is such a vicious cycle and where will it get you? Nothing wrong with pork pies just balance your fatty acids and oils. Omega 3 is in fish and will help balance the omega 6 in your meats, add coconut oil and avocados. Avoid corn oil and other vegetable oils. I wish my husband could cook.

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Margjean in reply to Heloise

My husband never cooked for over 40 years then when he retired. I taught how to cook and he can even use the washer,if he has to. He does a lot of the cooking now,I used to do a lot of baking but don't do much now ,don't eat as much these days and like to watch what I eat. I do make a nice lasagne when all the family come,must be my Italian background. Don't eat it much myself because of all the cheese. Just got a container of home made Bolognese sauce out of freezer,fancy spaghetti ,haven't been eating very well for a long time,never seem to have an appetite but forced myself to keep eating.

We always use olive oil for cooking.

He Makes lovely Cornish pasties. Flakey pastry from Aldies and carrots corn and peas and of course meat and oxo. He makes a few and he freezes them.

Never thought I would see the day. A bit different from glazing and plumbing.

Nearly died a couple of times. Sepsis,prostate ,burst appendix,bounces back,he will be 83 in Sept.

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Heloise in reply to Margjean

Italian food is so wonderful but when we get up in years we have to know how all foods will affect us. I'm still working on that, too. I wish my husband could do plumbing or glazing too, haha. He doesn't do anything that helps me personally.

Sepsis is becoming a real problem and I think it may be due to resistant germs and low immunity. He must be very strong. Lately I am concerned about stealth infections. We have to keep building up our immune system. I was on T3 only when I could get it and it was fine. I wonder why it affects you badly. Are you sure it isn't the T4 that is really not working for you and then you take T3 and it causes the reaction.

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Margjean in reply to Heloise

Have been on T4 for 30 years,alwaysalright till I got a lot of stress,a few deaths and sickness of people close to me. Haven't been right since .I hope putting up the T4 will now help? Do walk a couple of times a day which helps.

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Heloise in reply to Margjean

Yes, stress does a lot of harm and exercise is a good way to beat it. I hope your new dose helps.

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recovered7

Hi Margjean, i'm from Melbourne, which Compound Pharmacy did you use as i am looking for one

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Margjean in reply to recovered7

What part of Melbourne

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Margjean

There are a few in Melbourne . I googled it. I used the one in Seddon. But if you live in the Eastern Suburbs there are a few nearer.

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recovered7 in reply to Margjean

Hi Margjean, we have just moved to South Gippsland so there are none here so would have to have it posted out

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Margjean in reply to recovered7

Make sure it is priority mail,delivery by post office not as good as it used to be . There are also a few compounding chemists in the City.

Check them all out or ask your doc for a prescription for cytomel you can get it at Chemist Warehouse with a script.

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recovered7 in reply to Margjean

Hi Margjean, what is Cytomel ? is this NDT or something else

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to recovered7

Cytomel is a brand name for liothyronine (T3).

(Probably the USA product from Pfizer. But the word Cytomel is frequently used for any liothyronine (T3) tablets.)

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Margjean in reply to helvella

Were you wanting T3 or something else?

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thyr01d

Hi Margdean, lucky lady to be in Australia (if you are).

Your dose of T3 sounds like a lot to me, not tiny as some others have suggested. I'm not a medic but I am on T3 prescribed by an endo. My starting dose was 10 mcg (MICROgrams) a day taken as one tablet split into two to achieve 5 mcg am and 5 mcg pm. Now, three months on, I am on 10 mcg am and 10 mcg pm which will be reviewed at four months. So, very slowly and gently introduced and very gradually increased.

Hope that might help.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to thyr01d

Clarification within the thread makes me think the dose is 1.25 micrograms. So very small.

(1.25 milligrams would be by far the highest dose I have ever read about.)

(Some national standards would allow 1 microgram of T3 to be present in a 100 microgram levothyroxine tablet as an impurity!)

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Margjean in reply to thyr01d

Just been and checked,it was mcg. I did try it once before, and cytomel. Thought it might be different.Just Falling to bits.

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Margjean in reply to thyr01d

Yes we are in Oz . Alright down here in Melbourne ,not too good for Queensland and further north with the cyclone.

why are you not taking t4? taking just t3 will be a bumpy ride up and down, sweating to freezing. my blood pressure is very high now as a result of being hypo, after safeway changed me to a generic armour for wix weeks.

a small amount, 7 mcg or so will lower my bp from systolic 185 to 125 in less than a half hour. taking t3 when you are not hypo will just make you hyper for a few hours, not fun. i don't think the drs around here know what t3 is or how to use it. my dr saidhe would "look i to it" when i asked for a refill on my t3. this is not a good place to need a dr.

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sadhuketki23

Hi there

I have total thyroidectomy 2015 but taking levo by all this year. Can anyone suggest whats is medicine name if i want to ask my doctor to presribed as t3 .she said in melbourne t3 medicine not available unless and untill i have any name she can try.plz plz anyone.

Thank you in advance.

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Heloise in reply to sadhuketki23

Hi sad, sorry that Australia seems to have little knowledge of T3. Are you sure? Bodybuilders have used T3 as a non prescribed supplement. In the U.S. it is called Cytomel. In Mexico Grossman makes it as Cynomel. You used to be able to get UniPharma in Greece. I think there is Tiromel....let me check that out.

If you can get a prescription from your doctor you could post your own question to the members asking where to send your prescription.

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Heloise in reply to sadhuketki23

Yes, some use Tiromel but seem to think it is weak for some reason. Tiromel from unitedpharmacies-uk.md I don't know if that will work in Australia.

Product Name Tiromel (Liothyronine 25mcg [T3]) Tablets (Turkish) Made in Turkey. English language leaflet included. Active Ingredient Liothyronine.

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sadhuketki23 in reply to Heloise

Thank you ao much for prompt reply.much appreciated

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Heloise in reply to sadhuketki23

I hope you can find something, T3 has helped me so much but I'm in the U.S. and order from Mexico.

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sadhuketki23 in reply to Heloise

Hello again,sorry to bother you.but now i got name and doctor said they cant prescribed me without seeing endo .. and when i called endo they said i have to go with their way which is levo again and they will monitor me if they think then only .it can be prescribed.now i got someone who delivered cytomal in australia.but they need dosage value.how would i know what will ve my dosage.taking levo 75...currently.

Any help much appreciated.

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Heloise in reply to sadhuketki23

Look for a private message where it says Chat (above).

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