Judging by the graphics I've seen the program use over the last few weeks they use empty capsules by the thousand. You can buy them in pretty colours too.
I could buy 200 for less than a fiver if I needed to :
Is it appropriate to talk about desiccated thyroid as a cheaper alternative to liothyronine? (Horses for courses - right medicine for the patient, surely?)
Why didn't he get a thyroid profile done?
Laboured point about metabolism viewed purely as "how fast/how hot" and utterly ignored things like gene transcription which might be more important in some ways.
Also failed to acknowledge that desiccated thyroid was the only treatment for around half the time since Murray's original sheep thyroid injection paper/talk.
Evidence to change everyone to levothyroxine monotherapy could be argued to be lacking.
I sometimes wonder if some enzyme reactions need body temperature to be very close to normal to work properly. Considering that some people say they have temperatures barely above hypothermia, I'm sure it is a very relevant factor.
I've also read posts that say it's quite common for doctors to dismiss body temperature as irrelevant, and some seem to believe the patient is lying.
I know you can do fireworks emojis, I've seen it.... drat it!
I'm not here enough Lyn, I'm sorry for that - but by standing a bit back, you realise things are changing - it's obvious - and that's thanks to you sweetie (& Lou & all the volunteers) xxx
Thanks! It's difficult sometimes to see the subtle changes. I think that once a respected programme like this starts to look into it, others will too. I'm hoping researchers will have seen the programme or know some of the docs and think about more research. 😄 xx
Well - it's out there, I've no idea how much Dr Mosely is respected by his peers, but personally I like his style, always questioning.... & the tapeworm - respect...
If GPs had time to watch TV maybe... (or catch-up like me) nevertheless it means that our members can have the gall to ASK .... "Oh Did you see that "Trust me I'm a doctor" programme about Thyroid? ....
It's all about the start, of a conversation ..... the ending is up to you! x
You took the words out of my mouth spare ribs. After all it was an item within a programme and I for one was thrilled to hear it being told in a clear and concise manner and basically what I have had to find out myself with the help of this brilliant website.
Fantastic to hear them talking about (a) overcooked levels before treatment started (b) the fact that some cannot convert T4 to T3 and (c) the dreadful price gouging of liothyronine by a pharm company........Dr Toft said it.."pennies to make"!
Did I miss any reference to the topic at the start of the programme! I suppose it was much better than nothing when it arrived but too little too fast.
It's great news, not one but two respected doctors discussing t4/t3 and on the BBC too not some obscure channel! I know it was brief but hopefully this is the start of real change
I noted that they mentioned that T3 was expensive in UK in spite of it being produced for pennies by the manufacturer but the didn't mention that you can buy it in Europe very cheaply. No one ever says why dies the NHS always have to pay through the nose for everything. However it was good that the subject of poor treatment and suffering of patients with thyroidism was raised again.
Where did the 10% figure of people who don't well on levo come from? I think the usual proportion quoted is 20%, though I would query the accuracy even of that figure.
I can't watch this as I'm not in the UK, but there was also a story on the BBC website that also appeared in their Facebook news feed.
It was getting lots of reaction last time I looked and the Thyroid UK website address as well as this forum were suggested to a number of people who were wanting to know more by both me and others.
Hidden I saw an Endo last month who, instead of just upping the Levothyroxine, was happy to prescribe Erfa Thyroid! (Only when I was cheeky enough to bring it into the conversation though - but still!)
Good luck with getting the GP to prescribe it - I think mine would have a fit of the vapours if I asked him for it!
I take my hat off to Michael Moseley for bringing the whole T3 situation to public attention.
Next I'd really like him to make thyroid patients aware that giving up gluten can reduce their antibodies, it's shocking they're not being given this information by the NHS.
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