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JFK addisons & hypothyroidism. On T3

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JFK on 50 mcg of t3 a day for hypothyroidism. Can't believe it.

Good enough for him it's good enough for us.

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Clutter profile image
Clutter

Jobeth,

I don't think Levothyroxine was around in 59/60.  The alternative to Liothyronine was NDT.

Hilary Clinton is allegedly taking Armour.  Other US citizens might wonder why they're denied NDT.

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SmallBlueThing in reply to Clutter

Liothyronine was isolated (and possibly available) in 1952.

books.google.co.uk/books?id...

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to SmallBlueThing

To get our history backed up by official sources, I checked out the following:

The trademark "Tertroxin" (the first UK liothyronine product - possibly the only one!) was registered in 1954.

Found that information here:

ipo.gov.uk/tmtext.htm

The trademark "Cytomel" (the first USA liothyronine product so far as I know) was registered in 1956 (having been first used in 1955).

Word Mark     CYTOMEL

Goods and Services     (EXPIRED) IC 005. US 018. G & S: HORMONE PREPARATION FOR USE AS A METABOLIC STIMULANT. FIRST USE: 19550406. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19550406

Serial Number     71698555

Filing Date     November 18, 1955

Registration Number     0637941

Registration Date     December 4, 1956

tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/show...

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galathea

Yeah, but he got shot whilst taking liothyronine, which is a good enough reason not to prescribe it apparantly.   Also, if there is an a in the month, that also counts as a reason.....     You think i am making this up?    Just try asking your doctor for t3.    :-(

Xx G

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Clutter in reply to galathea

Galathea,

I wouldn't dream of taking my T3 unless I was wearing Kevlar body armour and a tin foil hat, and I give Dallas a very wide berth.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to galathea

So how did Lee Harvey Oswald know JFK was taking liothyronine? The rest of us didn't find out for decades!

Do you think the Mafia, Fidel Castro, LB Johnson, the KGB or whoever informed LHO?

Set up an investigation immediately!!

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faith63 in reply to galathea

maybe with all that potent t3, he could have out run the bullet and the problem was with the car?  They should stop selling Cadillac's.

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Jose651

Apparently, he also suffered from Addison disease, B12 def and Celiac Disease. 

in reply to Jose651

Poor man , he got it all then gets shot. If it hadn't been for the rigid back brace he may of slumped forward after the first shot in neck and wouldn't of taken the fatal shot in head. So sad and tragic.

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Jose651 in reply to

And he had IBS and Osteoprosis and a host of other ailments as had his entire family. His son has Graves and his sister had autoimmune disease. 

Most of his ill health was hidden from the public. That could be his Irishness coming out in him. Lol

I was 7 years old when he died and remember it as if it was yesterday.

Every house in Ireland had a plate hung up on the wall with his lovely face on it. 

Those were the days my friend.

X

in reply to Jose651

You just took the words out my mouth about his Irish roots. They certainly had bad luck that family.

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faith63 in reply to Jose651

we used the plate as a dog food dish.

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lola1956

Thanks  that's really interesting  

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gabkad

Thank you jobeth.  We know he was in the habit of shagging nubile young starlets in the back of his limo and just about anywhere else he could..........  the article says he was also on a testosterone replacement.  

in reply to gabkad

Well apart from being a bloke I'm sure the testosterone and corticosteroids had side affects that increassed his sex drive.

He must of had an iron will power to endure his many chronic illnesses and cope with all those drugs and be president. Remarkable. He'd of been well dead if he'd of been poor.

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gabkad in reply to

' He'd of been well dead if he'd of been poor.'

Amen.  You said it sistah!

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kathy1029 in reply to gabkad

the better question is, how many presidents or men of power don't mess around? none is my guess

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gabkad in reply to kathy1029

Richard Nixon most likely.  His doctor was bringing him 'other drugs' that made him be paranoid.  Considering he was the one who started the 'War on Drugs'....phew.  Hypocrite doesn't come close......

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kathy1029 in reply to gabkad

if someone told me fifteen years ago our presidential candidates were going to be Donald Trump (who was probably on one the reality shows he was in at the time) and Bill Clintons wife, I would have laughed my butt off, but, here it is. like a bad joke

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gabkad in reply to kathy1029

They make Justin Trudeau look like a dignified statesman.  This guy started his political career maintaining that hate ads and stuff like that are not necessary for political success.  He stayed on message and achieved his goal:  becoming prime minister.  No doubt mistakes will be made or better choices could be decided upon over the next few years, but at least Canadians won't have a cringeworthy prime minister.  Seems these days that's already a bonus point.

I think Bernie Sanders is why Hillary Clinton is under control in the overt nasty department because hey, otherwise there would be a double sh*tshow going on in the States.  And she can be nasty.  Do you remember back in 2008 when she made a comment during the run up against Obama when it was looking like he'd win against her that well, Robert Kennedy was assisinated in June?  

Go Bernie!!!!  

(We haven't hijacked the thread, right?  After all it was about a US president and not a personal post.)

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Jose651

And his 2 wee adrenals were all wizened away to nothing.

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faith63

i am rarely on the forum any longer due to frustration. Nearly everyone tells everybody, that they must keep testing..test, test, test.. to find the proper dose.  Dose by labs..even the administration does it and patients believe it too, always asking for more labs from their doctors.  Diabetics do not test insulin levels, but rather blood glucose levels, which shows the effects of the insulin.  With thyroid we are not testing the effects of the hormone, but the hormone levels itself  ..it makes no sense!  Free Thyroid labs, show what is available in the blood for the body to use, but not if the body is actually using it.  Many times the body is not converting and not using it!  

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galathea in reply to faith63

To be fair, once people are on a good regime and have their health back, they donT need to test so much...... I havenT had my free t3 tested for a couple of years now..... I know that 4 grains pushes it over range and 3 grains keeps it fine..... I feel the same as always, thyroid wise, so am not stressed about testing......

however, none of us are medically qualified, we don't actually know the people asking questions, we cannot assess them by looking at them. How else can anyone help unless everything is tested? I've been on the forums for a good few years and have had some real surprises when i have met people face to face at the agm's. Not all good surprises either. You can tell people are massively over and under dosed sometimes when you meet them, though it all sounds like they are hunky dory on the forum.      

If our doctors were competent or interested, then we would have no need of the forums. The doctors would be treating us effectively. In the meantime, testing is the only way any of us can get a picture of what is going on.......

Xx g

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faith63 in reply to galathea

some people need very high doses of t3,,showing way over range, but they have no symptoms of being overmedicated and may still be possibly under medicated.  The testing does not tell you how to dose or if the tissues are being affected.  This is way the doctors say that we all have other diseases like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome and go on to develop more diseases and illness and malfunctioning hearts, kidneys, livers, lungs..everything   and that we need statins and a multitude of other drugs..it is still about low metabolic rate, no matter what thyroid labs look like.  Most people are under medicated.  What about treating WHY we have low thyroid or at least investigating that?  The doctors are not interested. 

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faith63

thank you for the links.

I should have said thyroid hormones found in the blood, that thyroid labs do not show how the tissues are responding.  My doctors told me that the thyroid labs do indeed tell you that your meds are working, if they are in range..anywhere in range.  I was told that i had another disease.  She did not recognize my symptoms at all.  

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

The number of US presidents and close relations with thyroid issues seems surprisingly high. In addition to JFK and Hilary Clinton:

Abraham Lincoln

George W Bush

Tipper Gore Wife of former USA vice president Al Gore

Barbara Bush Former USA first lady Barbara Bush

... and quite possibly some others.

Amazing that any of them could do the job.

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Marz in reply to helvella

Am wondering if Trump has been tested ? ... :-)

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