Tonsils, tonsillectomies, and the immune system
They yanked mine out when I was four! I still remember it clearly...
GG, I was six. Haemorrhaged next day and thought it was my fault because I'd eaten a boiled sweet prior to the op.
Awwww that's sad.
first port of defence - aren't they attached to le Thyroid? (I have one missing since my op - no really I do!)
ah, way back then when docs used to examine us?
I had tonsillitis so many times - antibiotics - tonsillitis again, repeat - no op thankfully... (although colleague at work had hers out years ago she had tonsillitis last year - some tissue remains in the throat, she's always ill...)
I've no idea if they're attached to the thyroid. But if they are, that would explain a lot! Many years ago, when I was having typical throat hypo symptoms, I went to an ENT, and he said one of my tonsils had regrown. I have no idea how true that is.
GG, thyroid and liver can regenerate so no reason to suppose tonsils can't too.
We-ell... Maybe, but the heart and stomach can't! So, no reason to suppose that tonsils can. Works both ways. lol
I dont know how true this is but one of the reasons my gp said he wouldn't get mine removed is because he said it was connected to the other glands around the neck and throat and it was pointless without removing the other glands which made my mom very definite that I shouldn't have it done (hadn't developed a thyroid problem then).
I'm not sure how true that is, either! He might just have been making excuses, I think!
TBH those were my thoughts
Spare, not near thyroid, at the very back of tongue.
Just because it's not next door, doesn't mean mean they're not connected in some way.
They're not attached though which is what Spare asked.
Me too, I was seven.
Must be even worse at seven. Poor you!
Had mine out about age 5. They were so big and infected, food tasted like pus and I'd barf all the time. Barely could get a trickle of water down past them. Afterwards it was like I had a huge cave in my throat. The sound of water going down when I swallow always reminds me of the change that happened after the surgery. I, for one, am really glad they were removed. They were compromising my breathing. After the surgery I didn't wake up crying at night or pee the bed all the time. My mattress was rotten already.
My older kid had to have hers out at age 4 as well. Same scenario as above. Surgeon said she had the biggest tonsils she's ever removed. My poor kid was suffering maybe worse than I did but who knows? Maybe it was all the same: really bad. She had to be on a liquid diet because solids would get caught in the tonsils and she'd vomit.
That sounds awful! I have no memory of any symptoms before the op. I just remember the op and waking up in the hospital afterwards.
My son had terrible tonsilitis, over and over and over from the age of 3 to five. The doctor wouldn't even see him! I just talked to a silly cow of a receptionist over the phone who hinted that it was all my fault and to give him ice cream. But he couldn't even swallow that!
Then I discovered Vitamin C!!! And at the first sign of white spots, I loaded him up on it. And it worked. But what got me about that was when I went to the chemists to buy the stuff and the assistants wanted to know why I wanted it. My response? Mind your own bloody business!!!
Tonsils can regrow to some extent. Not connect to the Thyroid Gland. I had mine taken out at age 28!!! Most horrible pain ever. I had infections, chronically for about 15 years and on anti biotics all the time. No doctor would remove them!!!
No, because they were following the 'latest' guidelines, the latest fashion, so to speak. Incapable of thinking for themselves, it's all or nothing!
Exactly! They had stopped removing tonsils at the time. It was just gross, having those yucky tonsils..i had lots of allergies too. Totally "ripe" for getting Hashi's.. a perfect storm, so to speak.
I remember the cooling ice cream given afterwards . I was a bit older then you Grey I think,maybe 6.
Well, I didn't get any ice cream! And I've always felt cheated about that! lol
Didn't like ice cream, anyway. So there!!!
I was 8 or 9. And, yes, they force you to eat ice cream, which I hated. Luckily, my gran fed me on steak and green beans when I got home from the hospital. Hurrah!
No, they didn't force me to eat it. There wasn't a sniff of ice cream! But I can still remember the taste of the 'sweets' I was given when I got home. I think they must have been pain-killers.
Lucky you. All I got was ice cream luckily I managed to give most of it to the boy in the next bed. I can still remember the taste of blood in my throat - and I just got sinus infections instead of throat infections afterwards.
Well, I got Hashimoto's! lol
It was around 1973, when I was doing my nurse training (which I gave up shortly thereafter to nurse animals instead...) that they suddenly decided to stop giving icecream as it was suspected of being the cause of so much post-op infection and they started giving dry toast instead. Apparently the scraping of the toast took away any sloughing that might have grown on the tonsil bed... Funnily enough, there weren't too many enthusiastic takers for this new therapy! I never had mine removed, but two of my daughters had the operation when they were in their 20s.
Well, it must have been in 1948/49 that I had mine done, so it wasn't because of that!
Dry toast! Honestly, could they get any stoopider! How many kids are going to eat dry toast!
I got the cornflakes and dry toast post op 1983 ish was always ill constantly off school and had op cancelled a zillions times as I always had tonsillitis!!!
How awful for you!
My mother pressured the our gp to refer me for a tonsillectomy when I was 4 because I`d had a few sore throats. After the operation, guess what? still catching colds & gett ing sore throats! The operation did nothing to improve my health, I was just a victim of a medical fashion of the time.
Yup, I probably was, too. If anything, my health got worse!
How very depressing.......I had mine out when I was 5 (1955) had the ice cream treatment afterwards and was in bed ages with a ward sister who yelled at you when you moved and got very very cross when I tried to retrieve my teddy bear that had fallen on the floor. Oh joy! And now to realise it was praps unnecessary and even detrimental.................and I really don't remember being ill with sore throats etc as a small child. Most probably explains a lot 'down the line'.
Yep, had the cornflake/dry toast thing - ent hospital in golden square in london, miles from home. Horrible place. Horrible nurses too! I trained later, when i was 20, and it had gone back to icecream. Never liked icecream either!😉
I now keep bees and i swear regular stings in spring kickstart my immunity. Remission is a way off yet but as im actually constructing entire sentences unaided, i think i must be going that way!
I think I'll pass on the bee-sting treatment, thank you very much! Sounds worse than ice cream! lol
Haha!! I now, after 10 years, dont even get any redness when im stung-its as tthough my body has nothing to say on the subject. Bee stings arent too bad, no worse for me than a jab from a thorn, far less painful than a wasp sting - 20x the venom load!
Trouble is, i now have lovely gentle bees i can work with who rarely sting so i have become a swarm collector for the BBKA, in hopes of getting a decent dose of bee venom!
Hasnt stopped my left eye enlarging though. Oh well, ill just have to finish each sentence with Aharr, a la pirate!
Interesting, I've always had problems with my tonsils and swollen lymph nodes in my neck. GP wouldn't take them out and they were REALLY bad in my teens. I wish he had, my right one is permanently swollen and I have regularly had tonsil stones since my teens, my ears often feel blocked and itchy as does my nose and I have nasal drip. Is it worth having them taken out? Don't think I have enough gp visits to qualify any way as I just came to the conclusion that it's something I have to put up with.
'Don't think I have enough gp visits to qualify any way as I just came to the conclusion that it's something I have to put up with'
Sorry, I don't understand that. Enough gp visits to qualify for what?
It would seem that having your tonsils out when you're adult is very, very painful. And adults I've known that have had it done, don't recommend it! I had mine out when I was five, but I still have post nasal drip and all sorts of other nose, ear and sinus problems. So, I'm not convinced it was worth it.
from what I've read there are criteria for tonsillectomies which include number of tonsillitis occurrences and gp visits for sore throats. I don't bother going when I get those things as I know it will pass, therefore I think the number of gp visits I've had (or not had) would disqualify me from getting any surgery anyway. Thanks for the feedback... always wondered if it was the wrong thing not to have had them removed.
When my eldest was 3, he had terrible sore throats. he really suffered. But they refused to take his tonsils out. They preferred to blame me, for not giving him his tablets! No idea what the tablets were supposed to do, but when he took them, he vomited them straight up again. They refused to believe me. Terrific arguments ensued! lol But, now, he's a fine healthy man of 48, and no more trouble with his tonsils.
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