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Hi guys,

My TSH has gone from 3.58 to 4.6 to 0.44 (0.27-4.2) in 5 weeks.

Because I still had symptoms my doctor Increased me again, even with my 0.44 TSH. They don't test T3 but my free T4 was at 17(12-22) I'm currently on 75mcg of levothyroxine. My weight gain finally stopped and I lost a few but now it has stalled again. I've only been on 75mcg for just over a week or so. I was wondering - when can I expect weight loss to start? I'm desperate here. Are thre any tips?

Anything, hope in particular would be amazing.

Whit x

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gabkad

tip? Be patient. This is not a diet pill. Most of what you've lost so far is fluid. Not fat.

The fat part will come off gradually but you will need to increase your physical activity as you begin to feel better and reduce your food intake just like normal people who want to lose weight. Levothyroxine is not a magic pill.

Once upon a time I used to do serious physical labour on a farm from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. once per week. I became gaunt. But I was still hypo. It showed in the pictures. So being hypo doesn't mean being fat.

Take a look at The Perfect Health diet blog and photographs of plated food servings. I did. I eat a lot more than what's on those plates. That's 2,200 calories per day those people are eating. Not sure, but I think one of the couple has Hashimoto.

Back in the old days people ate two meals per day: 1 large meal around noon and a snack in the evening (usually leftovers from lunch). Add to this the number of 'fasting days' in a given year according to the religious calendar which added up to fully one half of the year..... Then people started eating three meals per day, which is probably okay. Then this expanded again to three meals and three snacks............ with predictable results.

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jeanniex in reply to gabkad

can you give me the link to The Perfect Health diet ? thanks

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gabkad in reply to jeanniex

perfecthealthdiet.com/

Lots and lots of reading. They have a book too. Everything is studied from a very scientific perspective. In that Paul Jaminet doesn't just say 'do this' or 'do that'. He explains why with serious amounts of research documents to support his material. His wife is a cancer researcher at Johns Hopkins.

Probably for a person who lives in England, the inclusion of fermented foods will be quite foreign. But fermented vegetables are used extensively in traditional diets of Europeans and East Asians.

The only thing I totally disagree with is the exclusion of corn. Not fresh corn on the cob corn, but cornmeal traditional fresh corn tortillas have a low glycemic index. I did some glucose response curves adding this to breakfast and was pleasantly surprised.

He also excludes beans which are a big part of the Blue Zone people's diets. There's been some flack going on over the past year about this and maybe Paul will reconsider his opposition. Lectins are degraded by cooking so not the big deal he makes them out to be. Some bean salads, like black eye pea, with vinegar added are excellent for energy but also do not cause glucose spikes. One of my friends and I did a 'head to head' glucose response curve eating a large serving of bean salad on an empty stomach (yes for breakfast). She's 10 years younger than I am and probably in better physical shape. Our glucose went from about 4.7 to 5.8. Slowly it went down over the course of the next 4 hours. So great results. That was the time I noticed mine went to about 3.6 at 4 hours and then back up to 4.4 at 5 hours..... liver started to convert glycogen to glucose. Hers didn't go that low at the 4 hour mark. She thinner.... that explains things. Her liver kicked in before her blood glucose got symptomatically low. Still and all, considering I was on too low dose of thyroid hormone at the time, it was okay. Maybe we'll redo the experiment again some time now that I'm on a better thyroid hormone level.

Beans without vinegar cause a higher glucose spike. The vinegar has a huge effect.

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jeanniex in reply to gabkad

thanks gabkad - yes, lots of reading! x

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Angel_of_the_North in reply to gabkad

Corn probably excluded because most corn in the US is GM.

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sulamaye

What you have to remember is that hypothyroidism can slow ur metabolism down, but when the medication works it simply normalises your metabolism. That means say your normal metabolism was to burn 2000 calories a day. You go hypo and your body slows to burning 1800 cals a day - as an example- you get your dose of thyroxine right and it returns to burning 2000 cals a day. You aren't going to lose any weight, just not put any more on if you eat what you have always done. In order to lose that hypo weight you need to eat less than your normal set point.

Twenty years ago I put on 3 stone in 3 months - nobody believes me unless it's happened to them - I was diagnosed and like you thought I'd drop that 3 stone. Nothing happened, then is worked out what I just told you. I had to cut calories to lose that weight. Sorry for the bad news.

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Wlorenm in reply to sulamaye

No that's good news for me! I lost three stone last year and gained a stone in just over a month. Ridiculous. But I still eat very little - hardly more than a meal a day.

I just wanted to know how long it takes me metabolism to speed up again so I can start back to the gym and get the weight back off.

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lola1956 in reply to sulamaye

I believe you ..I put on 3 stone in 3 months too...it's terrible and I'm ashamed of how I look

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sulamaye in reply to lola1956

Try not to be, it's horrible to feel out of control and I am 16 stone again now, wishing I was 13 stone - ah there's the rub! But I try to accept how I am and think that when I recover from whatever this is M.E or thyroid over dose, or wrong dose or whatever, that I will gte back to 13 stone where I feel more like myself! It's all relative! :-)

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Wlorenm in reply to sulamaye

Do you put weight on from overdosing ?!

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sulamaye

I was diagnosed with M.E in 2011 and have put on 3 stones on 3 years, I go reactive hypoglycemic, which basically means my body overreacts when I eat and clears glucose from my bloods leaving me hungry and I assume storing the glucose as fat, cos it certainly isn't using it for fuel, as I am on my hands and knees most of the time. My bloods were normal, so despite having been hypothyroid since 1994 I ignored that as a possible cause. I was on 175mcgs of t4 and 20 mcgs of T3 so thought I had nothing to worry about. Recently a GP decided to cut my meds to 100mcgs T4 and wow up shot my M.E symptoms. I am now beginning to seriously consider that my M.E has hypothyroidism at the bottom of it and that perhaps my dose or the balance between T4 and T3 were wrong and for some chemically complicated reason that no one actually knows for sure my body was overreacting to the T3 and producing too much Reverse T3 which could have halted my up take of T3, leaving me in effect starved of thyroxine. It's complicated, nebulous and unproven, but there is circumstantial evidence. The only way I can resolve is trial and error, which is what I am doing now.

Are you still awake zzzzz yes its all rather dull and a bit confusing. ;-)

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jezebel69

After many attempts over many years the only effective way for me to lose weight was by dropping ALL carbs. Read the Zoe Harcombe diet - I found it very enlightening. I have a low basal body temperature..a sign of hypothyroidism..so it's really difficult to metabolise. Have you checked your temperature??

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