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Has anyone made any drastic change to their diet? I’m on my second month and I stopped eating meats and sugar but I’m wondering if there is anything else I could be doing ? 90 % of the time I’m eating home cooked meals the other 10% sometimes I eat out because I have two jobs and some days I don’t get home until later and I rather eat than wait hours before I get home

What else can I do ?

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Barbteeth profile image
Barbteeth

Just eat a healthy balanced diet that you enjoy..don’t deprive yourself...that’s my opinion

There’s a load of rubbish out there on the internet and people selling books and supplements to make money

I’ve been looking at the alleged link with cancer and sugar and there’s no proper evidence that stopping eating carbs makes any difference...our bodies are clever and will convert other nutrients into sugars if needed..all cells need sugars to work at their optimum

Don’t misunderstand me..I take some supplements for my bones and my anaemia and turmeric for pain and I juice and eat healthy which I’ve always done

... in fact I’ve always been active never overweight etc but I still ended up with mbc...makes you think doesn’t it...oestrogen is the fuel in my case

All the best to you

Barb xx

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Southside25 in reply to Barbteeth

Strongly agree. I asked my onc. about sugar feeding this kind of estrogen-positive cancer. She doesn't buy it, but believes as you do, in eating a good balanced diet, less sugar generally (we all should eat a whole lot less sugar), fewer refined foods, more veggies, etc. I, too, am wary of all the supplements that are going to cure us. I'll take science any day.

The other thing is: I'm 72 and if I want to eat something that makes me happy, I'm going to. As Woody Allen said: "you can live to be a 100 if you give up everything that makes you want to live to be a 100".

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Barbteeth in reply to Southside25

Haha I love the Woody Allen quote...I’m a fan of his movies

Barb xx

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diamags in reply to Barbteeth

My oncologist agrees with Barb and Southside 25.

I did change to a 100% whole food, plant based way of eating. I only follow evidence based science on the cancer subject. Throughout my 65 years, my cholesterol has been through the roof. I was allergic to statins, so doctors gave up and just advised me to eat everything in moderation. After eating the way I do, it was not even six weeks, my cholesterol dropped to within a normal range. I know diet alone will not cure my cancer, but I can improve my immune system and hopefully slow down progression so I can eventually see grandkids :)

My oncologist fully supports my diet and has sent me to the only plant based doctor in my health plan who follows the same way of eating.

I also do a 13 hour intermittent fast.

I just finished reading another science based book, "The Telomere Effect"...eye opener.

Also, I recommend another science based evidence book by Dr. Michael Greger, "How Not To Die".

I owe it to the people who love me to help myself the best way possible and for me this works. But that is not to say if you don't follow this you're wrong....we all do what we feel comfortable with and can handle. So there is no wrong approach!

All the best to you as well!

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Barbteeth in reply to

There are many books out there about diet and if you compare them to one another the general idea is less animal protein and more vegetables fruits and nuts...in other words less processed food

I think if you’re sticking to those general rules you’re eating healthily...don’t need detox diets as we have a liver that does that and our bodies are very clever in taking what nutrients we need from our food

Barb xx

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Katherinelopez in reply to Barbteeth

Thank u

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Home18 in reply to

I eat the same way as you spiffycj and I believe it has really helped me feel good through all of this. Plus I’m an animal lover with 2 vegan sons and daughters in law so it’s made it quite easy for me. My husband also went plant based, lost a ton of weight and no longer needs blood pressure meds so for us it was a great change.

I also believe the science behind animal agriculture being a huge cause regarding climate change so it’s a win win for me.

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Have-faith in reply to

Well said and I too like Dr. Gregors book. I beliee we need to strengthen our immune system by nourishing it with healthy foods. I always believed in eating what I want in moderation, but with this dx I have limited processed sugars, rarely do I eat meat and I stopped dairy. I believe this all helps and makes me feel I have some control. Plus, forget about cancer, there are so many studies stating how diet helps other illnesses. I dont feel like I am missing out on anything food related.

Faith

in reply to Have-faith

Same for me Faith! I totally agree.

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NPmary

Check out nutritionfacts.org

The How Not to Die Cookbook

The forks Over Knives Cookbook

I've been on a whole food, plant based, no sugar, no oil, low salt diet it's been really good for me. All the docs approve. Since diagnosis in 2017.

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Katherinelopez in reply to NPmary

Thank u

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LouisaMay

Hi,

When first diagnosed I immediately gave up all meat, dairy and alcohol, refined carbs and sugar. I lost loads of weight in a short time, which I could not afford to do (this was partly down to stress at the initial diagnosis). However, some months on, I have mellowed somewhat. I have always eaten a very healthy diet and have never been overweight. I do not believe that a faulty diet caused this disease and therefore a good diet is not going to cure it. That said, I eat loads of veg, some fruit, plenty of nuts, I fast for at least 14 hours most days. I eat small amounts of good quality animal protein and dairy occasionally and will often (not every day) have a glass of wine. If I'm on the home straight, I'd better at least enjoy the journey! So if I'm out with my husband and/or friends I'll relax a little and have what I fancy including an occasional desert. I take some supplements and live in hope of a cure! There is so much confusing information on the internet but most of us know in our hearts whether we are eating well or not. Like you, though, I can't quite shake the feeling that I could be doing more!!! Good luck and best wishes in finding your own path through this. xxx

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Katherinelopez in reply to LouisaMay

Thank u

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Mindysooty

I too have been trying to find out more about diet but there is so much conflicting advice and info out there, it's very confusing. Ive decided to go with plant based and dairy free where I can but without being obsessive. Its early days for me so Im just finding out what I like or don't like. Im going shopping today and going to buy some tofu - something I never thought I'd be doing but hey why not. Im kind of enjoying experimenting although obvs I wish it was under different circumstances. I'm also trying to lower my carb intake but again, not to the extreme. I've seen you can buy low carb bread and alternative pasta so Im giving those a whirl too. I asked my onc about turneric supplement and she said I have to take it in for their pharmacist to check the additives before I take it but fully intend to add that into my daily regime too. I started reading a book called Everything You Need To Know To Breat Cancer. There's a list of supplements as long as your arm in there and I thought wow I dont think I could afford to buy all those so I decided to research what foods contained the things listed. Turns out its just a regular healthy well balanced diet like the others say - plenty of greens, orange and red fruit and veg. I dont eat a lot of red meat anyway but as I say, looking at alternatives. Converting to organic eggs and chicken too. Thats it really. Just doing it all gradually and like I say, not going to obsess. If Im eating out and cant find something to fit this plan, I'll just have something I like. Maybe with a small glass of wine a couple of times a week too - approved by my onc lol.

I hope this helps but like the other lady says, we all find our way with what suits us best.

Good luck and best wishes......and bon appetite of course 😆. Xx

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Katherinelopez in reply to Mindysooty

Thank u

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SpongebobMom

I've gone 100% carnivore, and with my oncologists blessing.

I only eat grass fed/grass finished proteins, water, and sometimes some raw milk cheese & heavy cream.

last blood draw everyone had to do a double take as all my counts were back where they were pre-dx with MBC. I'm thrilled and my belly is full.

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Have-faith in reply to SpongebobMom

This is great that you have such good results! Do you watch your tumor markers? Are you referring to these pre DX? If so, where are they now? Also which treatment plan are you on?

Thanks! Faith

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SpongebobMom in reply to Have-faith

so after 5 yrs of Tamoxifen my onc wanted to put me on letrozole, but I just wanted to be free of medicines & feeling like a turd, so we compromised that I would do blood work every 3 months. Fast forward to October of 2018 & my tumor markers started to elevate (at this point I was doing a keto diet, just not very strict...read, I still ate sugary carbs now & again)

By December 2018 my tumor markers were still raising so she had me do a PET scan & the results of that showed a metastasize.

I started my current drug cocktail (ibrance, letrozole & the monthly shot) in February of 2019, and now my tumor markers are below what they were in October...REALLY below.

I have done a TON of research, spoken to numerous drs & they agree that cutting off the fuel supply to cancer cells plus the drugs is working for me. I don't advocate eating one way or another. Do research, talk to your dr. This is what's been the best for me & honestly I feel amazing. I never realized that when I ate something "healthy" & it causes me gas, bloating or whatever other intestinal distress, that's my body reacting poorly to it & I should probably NOT eat it.

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Have-faith in reply to SpongebobMom

Thank you!

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mariootsi

I have been a vegetarian for 25 years and still have mbc.

I try to eat balanced and believe that's the best we can do.

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Kimr2081

You just have to do the best you can. I have tried to eat a more plant based diet and limit my animal protein to either wild salmon or organic free ranch chicken and have tried to cut out sugar from my diet but I am not perfect and sometimes I just need to splurge. I think what we do most of the time counts more than our little binges.

Kim

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cheflala

Hi: I have been on a low carb/low sugar diet for 6 weeks. My pets can in March showed my vertebral metastasis gobbling up sugar (cancer cells need sugar to grow). I started ibrance/faslidex in May. I am hoping to see a good response on pet scan in August. If so, I will continue my low sugar/carb diet plan. Cheflala

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