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Lweaver, I read this but do not really understand it. I think they r saying the 2 drugs work better together. I have been on these 2 drugs for almost 9 months and doing well.

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lweaver in reply to Susan1953

Hi Susan1953,

This is the article I read first. It is easier to read. peoplespharmacy.com/2018/01...

It says that those on Ibrance/letrozole should avoid soy and corn because it interferes with the drugs.

LeAnn

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SusieIM in reply to lweaver

I read the article also, did not really understand it. Oh this is good to know, about avoiding soy and corn. Thank you for the information.

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Susan1953

Thank you for sharing this article. No more edamame for me. Corn will be harder to avoid, especially homemade cornbread, (I live in the south, LOL). Seriously, I would like to know what other foods to avoid. Obviously, soy sauce (in all asian foods) and anything with corn in it (like my vegetable soup that I just made).

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Lisa-n-AZ

Interesting, I just attended a Cancer Seminar put on my Mayo Clinic, Soy was a topic in several sessions. The MD consensuses was soy was ok but they recommended it in its non processed state. Like in edamame and tofu. I just put the topic on my list for my next oncology appointment as I am on Ibrance/Letrozole Thanks for the heads up.

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Euebdbdbddh

Hi girls , I talked to my oncologist and he said not eating soy and corn it’s a non sense , he said just to avoid grapefruit .

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blms

CONSIDERING MOST ONCOLOGISTS KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT NUTRITION, I WOULD NOT TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!

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lweaver

My oncologist does the ketogenic diet and intermittant fasting. It has helped him with his health issues. But he is unusual.

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Kats2

lweaver,

I find the topic of what to eat and what not to eat so controversional and confusing! Seems different doctors and people in the medical field have assorted takes on the topic, and I don’t think they themselves know too much about it!

I’ve heard of the no soy theory ages ago. This particularly pertains to those with ER+ BC. I guess it contains estrogen which isn’t good for ER+ women.

There are so many theories out there, pro and con.

Don’t you think that if the medical professionals knew absolutely what foods to stay away from concerning your particular BC, they’d hand you a print-out listing them before you walked out of their office????

Not enough is known about or told to us about nutrition. We have to try to do our own research in this area. And even research has its pros and cons. For every article you read saying to avoid such and such a food, , there’s an article that opposes that one, or saying that it’s controversial. We’re left in no- man’s land.

Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a magic menu that listed what foods stop cancer either from starting, or stopping it in its tracks? Now THAT would be a great discovery!

Good luck everyone with your food choices. All I can suggest is to try to eat nutritiously, especially vegetables, not too much red meat, and cut down on sugar intake. ( as in candy, etc.)

I take a whole food vitamin every day, and try to get out in the sunshine whenever possible. Walking is my exercise of preference. Also, try to get a good night’s sleep!

Best wishes and blessings to all! Kats2

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lweaver in reply to Kats2

I see a nutritionist, so there is help. I am not on my own. The problem with soy and Ibrance is in the study. It increased aromatase, where letrazole and Ibrance suppress aromatase. So it makes sense that it works opposite of the medication In taking and interferes. Just my thinking.

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Sounds right to me. So much to consider don’t you think? Kats2

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Yes lots to consider. My nutritionist does muscle testing and customizes my food and supplements.

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Kats2

Wow! Does your nutritionist deal especially with cancer patients or everyone? Did you have to make any big changes in your diet? And does your Oncologist know that you’re seeing the nutritionist?

Kats2

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my nutritionist helps anyone who needs help. My oncologist knows. I'm concerned my immune system is impaired by Ibrance and nutrition may not be as effective, but I'm doing everything I can to get better. I have greatly altered my diet because of my muscle testing. Very narrow food choices - avoiding sulfur and oxalates and fermented foods dairy grains beans. I eat wild - no chicken, beef or pork. It's fine with me because I'll do just about anything to get better. I'm also doing 23 and me to see if any health info there would help.

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blms in reply to lweaver

I believe a naturopathic doctor is a critical part of this journey. Yes, corn and soy are truly important to try to avoid. Doing so is NOT easy as corn and soy are in so very many products in our pantry and refrigerator-look at labels. But equally as important, many of the animals we eat are feed corn and soy to grow for maximum yield, therefore eating animals that are feed corn and soy means you are eating corn and soy. Check with farmers markets asking what they feed their animals--not an easy fix there also but there are some out there that do neither and 100% grass feed their animals. Lambs are alway grass fed and although a good idea to eliminate diary, if you buy cheeses from most European countries, they do not feed their cattle corn or soy--ask cheese mongers. But, seriously the most important dietary avoidance is sugar. As cancer is stronger feed by sugar, eliminating sugar completely will help starve the cancer cells. Now ladies, this is a really tough dietary change across the board and most will not do this. I am trying what I can to totally restrict these things--also look at vitamin labels-to see if I can battle this a bit more. I am a stage 3 cancer survivor of 20 years, 68 years old, whose cancer has now spread to the lining of my left lung after all this time. So here goes. I have been sick with flu since recent diagnosis but am starting Ibrance this week and concerned about neutrophils and exhaustion but here goes. Keep the responses coming they are very helpful for all of us. And yes, I totally agree with the responder that said, most oncologists know NOTHING about nutrition so you need to do the leg work yourself.

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And if you did NOT know about sugar--ALL oncologist do and I have no idea why they do not stress this!! Just for some simple explanation, consider how the PET scan detects cancer cells in your body.

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