Magnesium L Threonate

[frances1]

Been using for three weeks tried other magnesium with know effect. This has stopped the pain and aching feeling like my old self when't out for a drink went down well. Hope this helps others be well my restless less suffers 

[Hidden]

Aren't you just in shock???  I want to know the whys and wherefores.  Are you taking anything else?

[frances1 in reply to Hidden]

I am taking half an co codolmol in day if needed then one before bed seems to be doing the trick, took me a while to write this did not want to give force hope . Hope this helps I know we are all different .

[Hidden in reply to frances1]

We're more alike then you can possibly imagine.  Did the magnesium help from the very first pill?

[frances1 in reply to Hidden]

I think so , I still can not get over it working going to live life to the full going to spain for 60 birthday in May , I when't last year cried a lot with pain in my legs, what is your story with mag. 

[Hidden in reply to frances1]

Let's take a step back.  I've had mild, intermittent RLS since childhood.  Even pregnancy didn't make it much worse.  In my 40s I decided it was a good idea to take melatonin - a substance now known to make RLS worse.  Overnight my mild restless leg became nightly restless body.  I never made the connection until several years later.  Anyways I read on the internet to just take iron at night.  I did that only I bought a kind of iron that is gentle on the stomach.  I got lucky I believe because the iron bis-glycinate that I bought worked the first night and every night thereafter.  Like the magnesium threonate, it is able to cross the blood brain barrier.  So, fast forward three years and I stop taking the melatonin and my RLS goes quiet and I can stop taking the iron.  Fast forward 7 years and my RLS is triggered by nearly everything...a big evening meal, my inhaler, diet pop.  I'm weak and pathetic.  I know these things will cause the RLS to rear it's ugly head yet I do not abstain completely.  My red blood count is way high for a woman but of no concern to my doctor and my iron stores are way high too so I want to find alternatives to iron...hence the mag threonate.  I feel no good can come from high iron stores.  I know RLS doctors will tell you differently.  They will tell you to get your stores way high yet hardly anyone on here has ever gotten relief from getting their stores way up.  Yet several people get relief from a nightly iron supplement.  Back to magnesium, I believe it is a wildly great supplement and so important for so many body functions.  I like that fact.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

yes, but not necessarily for RLS, "hidden". Oh right, you are gone. ooops!

[Hidden in reply to frances1]

If I can get my IBS and fatigue to a really low level I will join you in Spain...ole!

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

hmmmmmm, interesting this person's name is "hidden". Must mean she left.

[Mopsy1950]

Hi frances1,I hope it continues for you ,isn't it lovely to be normal for awhile I am going to try magnesium again ,hopefully with more success 

[Hidden in reply to Mopsy1950]

Might be worth it to spend a little extra and get the L Threonate kind of magnesium.  It is supposed to be one of only two kinds of magnesium known to cross the blood brain barrier - the other is magnesium glycinate.  The glycinate is probably cheaper and might be just as effective.  Both kinds are much more expensive than say magnesium oxide, the more common form of magnesium.  I would like to hear of someone who can take the magnesium in place of prescription meds.  Then it would be time to knock on the doors of the National Institutes of Health.

[Redhots7 in reply to Hidden]

I have been told Magnesium Malate is the best for Fibromyalgia , not sure how it would help for RLS?

[Hidden in reply to Redhots7]

Have u started the malate. Is it helping?

[frances1 in reply to Hidden]

Not tried malate

[Redhots7 in reply to Hidden]

Yes, I have started taking them , think maybe helps with some energy and DEFINATELY with constipation ( opioid constipation ).  Can't tell with pain .  I live in Oklahoma , USA and we have had back to back thunder storms for couple of weeks. Barametric weather changes really cause a lot of pain . 

[frances1 in reply to Redhots7]

My body dose not like cold wind keep well x

[Hidden in reply to Redhots7]

Wow, I have to google malate.  So it makes you really go, even in the face of opiates.  Interesting!!!  As I said on here before, there was a study done of how common SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth) is among RLSers, IBSers, and Fibro.  The first two were at about 50% but Fibro was 100% as I recall.  Motility is key to controlling SIBO and pro-motility drugs in addition to antibiotics are given to treat SIBO.  So yeah, if you're making it difficult for those critters to hang around I can see how people with Fibro would feel better with malate.

[Mopsy1950 in reply to Hidden]

Hi went to the health shop today ,a bit disappointed he didn't have the L Threonate but he got on the computer and going to see if he can order some in ,hopefully ,will let you know if they help 

[frances1 in reply to Mopsy1950]

Hope they work for you, I take three a day, I have taken other forms of mag with know change please let me know how you get on x

[Hidden in reply to Mopsy1950]

Oh man Mopsy, I hate to give too many suggestions but while you're in the experimenting mood why not try both - iron bis- glycinate and the L threonate.   Just take the iron an hour or two after magnesium and before bed. If after a week you're feeling good let your doc know that you're taking both. Do u have access to Amazon?

[Mopsy1950 in reply to Hidden]

Hi have been on iron through the Dr for some months now ,Ferrous fumarate but have nearly finished my iron at the moment is up were it should be , does this ,,,,iron bis -glycinate work differently to the iron I was taking ? I do have access but might be able to buy here as things take so long through Amazon ,,and not sure if allowed into Country 

[frances1 in reply to Mopsy1950]

I do not about iron I am not allowed to to it because I had a heart attack

[Hidden in reply to Mopsy1950]

Well one time I ran out of the bis-glycinate, many years ago now.  I figured iron is iron and I bought ferrous sulfate because the health food store was closed, but not the regular drug store.  I took one tablet and fully expected my RLS to disappear.  Two hours later it was bad as ever and I took a second iron pill and eventually fell asleep.  No other form does the trick for me.

As long as you have the iron why not try taking it at night on an empty stomach (away from all drugs and supplements) and also take it with an orange or grapefruit or a vitamin c tablet.  See if it helps at all.

Ultimately it's your call whether you want to try the iron bis-glycinate.  Put "iron" in the search box above and find an old post titled "Some Answers."  You have to read the entire conversation between Jane Doe and Mr. X.  Mr. X was my biggest skeptic.  I think he bought the iron and tried it to shut me the heck up.  To his disbelief it provided complete relief for six to eight hours and he did not need to take his daytime Ropinirole.   It just works, what can I say.  Anyone who has primary RLS has an anemic brain but not necessarily an anemic body.  And unless the iron crosses the blood brain barrier at the right time (ie at night or during an attack) it won't do much good.  So if you're taking the fumarate in the morning and hoping for a good night's sleep I can't see it working.  I don't think the fumarate readily crosses the blood brain barrier and you have to take it at night when you want to sleep.

[Mopsy1950 in reply to Hidden]

I was taking my iron in the morning ,is there much difference between the to types of iron do you know ? Will have a look at post

[Hidden in reply to Mopsy1950]

I think it's all the difference in the world.

[Mopsy1950 in reply to Mopsy1950]

Well the guy from the health shop rang today was going to cost $80.00 dollars for a bottle of L Threonate so needless to say didn't bother will try somewhere else 

[Jumpey in reply to Hidden]

Hi. I've just started taking magnesium malate today. Do you know whether that is as effective? Do you take yours at night?

[frances1 in reply to Jumpey]

Hi not tried malate got recommended one I am taking. Take three a day last one at night others have said malatehas worked for them you will know quite quickly ,let me know how you get on

[Jumpey in reply to frances1]

 Cheers for that. I will do.

[Hidden in reply to Jumpey]

Of course, always at night.  But that's me.  If I were you I would take one tablet during the day.  And do so everyday as is probably directed on the bottle.  Then if your RLS acts up at night take another tablet right then and there.  I took the Threonate last night and it worked but within four hours I was awake with RLS so I took the iron.

[linlow in reply to Hidden]

a list of the various forms of magnesium and their efficacy here drnibber.com/understanding-...

[frances1 in reply to linlow]

Interesting thank you

[Hidden in reply to frances1]

Frances did you notice that magnesium taurate is good for cardiac functioning per above article?  You could probably just supplement your L Threonate with Taurine.  I find Taurine very helpful with momentary irregular heartbeats I'm assuming due to menopause.

[frances1 in reply to Hidden]

Hi I had stents heart working well now, going to try malic acid with mag L for sleep and RLS I still do not sleep well since my mum passed away 8years now

[Mopsy1950]

Hi France's will let you know,did try magnesium years ago ,they didn't work ,but I also didn't realise there were different types ,( so hopefully ) would be great as I was put on Ropinorole but only lasted for a few weeks ,they give me terrible headaches so am going off them again ,also didn't help the weight 

[Hidden]

Tonight was Passover and we partied all night. I am up with RLS And just took a Magtein. Aka magnesium l threonate. I will give it an hour before taking iron. I have to wait anyways since stomach is not empty. Will report back upon awakening. Sweet dreams. 

[frances1 in reply to Hidden]

Doctor told me not to take iron I have had a heart attack if your heart is fine then ok, hope it works

[Hidden in reply to frances1]

Bingo!  No one's heart is fine.  We all have to be mindful.  Allegedly men have higher risk of heart attack because of higher iron, red blood count etc.  Post menopausal women are catching up to them.  We're just about as likely to have a heart attack as a man these days.  That's why I'm amazed when I see an RLS doctor getting a man's or an older woman's iron stores way high.  You have to pick your poison I guess.

[Kaarina Administrator]

Hi Frances, thank you for sharing. I hope you continue to feel well .

Kaarina