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Phone call early this morning: Liz has had another seizure. This time not so bad and her bottom lip is not trapped in her teeth. She was given midazolam a benzodiazepine for this sort of thing (no one is sure what these seizures are). When I got there she was relaxed and comfortable - very sedated. She managed a couple of smiles. We held hands and she was able to answer a few questions with hand squeezes, "no pain" "Yes, I want water"

This roller coaster!

Here is the Valentines card I got her - Banksiesque... It made me smile

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Hi Kevin, glad Liz is responding to meds. We have reached another stage where Mary will soon be unsafe on the stairlift because she cannot bend in the middle. OT are procuring a hospital bed, tilting commode a portable hoist for downstairs. Plus a new adaptable wheelchair which unfortunately will not fold. This means I will have to buy a WA Vehicle!! It never ends but I am determined to keep her life as normal as possible. Any ideas out there for buying/renting second hand wheelchair accessible vehicles?? Regards Rob

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Kevin_1 in reply to Willow_rob

Hi Rob

Thanks.

I'm so sorry things are slipping down more.

You might want to start another thread for the vehicle. Folk might not see your request here.

I never went down the mobility vehicle route. So I don't know much about it. I seem to remember there is a government scheme. I've had a look for it online, but couldn't find it. Might have been cut. I know you can Vehicle Tax reduction.

gov.uk/financial-help-disab...

There must be a lot of second hand ones around.

Sorry I could't help more.

Best to you both

Kevin

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Sarah1972 in reply to Willow_rob

Can Mary Stand with assistance? We have a car for mum where the seat comes outside the vehicle, you sit down then it transfers you in. We have this for mum and as long as you can transfer from chair to chair it’s perfect.

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Willow_rob in reply to Sarah1972

Unfortunately she is immobile and can only stand with an electric stand aid. She will shortly need a hoist. Currently I get her into our car by using a slide sheet on her seat BB and physically lifting her myself but my back is beginning to give out

Thanks for your help. Rob

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doglington in reply to Willow_rob

I found one by posting and finding someone who no longer needed it. Unfortunately Chris was suddenly bedbound and so I didn't buy.

X

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Willow_rob in reply to doglington

Thank you I will try that.

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I always hated the "well X condition is happening but we (medical staff) don't really know why..." . I am glad she is resting comfortably, that is pretty much the sole consideration as things progress.

Ron

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Kevin_1 in reply to Dadshelper

Thanks Ron.

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honjen43

Big hug across the miles - for both of you! You are both never far from my thoughts.

Love

Jen XXX XXX

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Kevin_1 in reply to honjen43

Hugs to you too Jen.

Sorry to read about the news in NZ today. Quite a shock.

Hoping all is good for you.

Warmly

Kevin

xx

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honjen43 in reply to Kevin_1

Thanks Kevin. Am well.

It hasn't really sunk in yet. Death toll still rising. Not what we expect in NZ!

Have been away in Rotorua at my grandson's graduation.

Hugs

Jen xxx

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Kevin_1 in reply to honjen43

Gosh, you get about!

Must be quite wonderful to go to a grandsons graduation. :)

Yes, not what I would have expected in NZ... Punching a minister aside... That was a shock too. :(

Hugs to you

xxx

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dollydott

Love and hugs to you both as you survive another rollercoaster. Good description!! It must have been scary for you both

I like the card it's different and I'm sure it made Liz smile too ☺

Lynda 💜

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Kevin_1 in reply to dollydott

Thanks Lynda

I'll see what today brings.

Warmly

Kevin

What an ordeal for the both of you. It never ends.

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Thanks Jeff - Hoping things are fairly OK in your neck of the woods.

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Things are fairly stable here. His decline is very incremental. It’s almost unnoticeable until I think about it.

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Kevin_1 in reply to

That's great :)

Does Larry not get quite sudden 'step downs' then?

Liz does, every now and then I would get up and another bit of functioning had gone.

I think of you guy's quite a lot... I too do 15 minutes on an exercise bike each day. So every time I get on it I think, "Wonder if Jeff is keeping it up?"

I skip day's lol... But I try :)

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He hasn’t had a dramatic step down to date. It’s all been so very slow as to not be all that noticeable. I have to stop and think about where he was a year or more ago and compare him to that. The latest is he has stopped using the rollator to get to the kitchen for a meal. He is riding in the transit chair.

I only get to a workout about once a week. The more cranky I am the more I know I need to do it. If you are doing 15 minutes everyday you are an inspiration.

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Kevin_1 in reply to

That is such good news that Larry does not have step downs... they are miserable.

Yes, I know what you mean, the worse I feel the more I know I need to do it, but the less likely I am to do it. PSP can induce a lot of anger, I know.

Yes, I exercise every day excepting when I feel too upset, or can find a reasonable excuse... It can be as low as three times a week, I am very good at excuses some weeks. ;) But I try.

Wishing you both the very best.

Kevin

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Spiralsparkle

Mums seizures were very frightening for me to witness & keep her safe. After she had two they started her on epilepsy meds to try keep them at bay. It took many trials of drugs to find one she could sort do tolerate. She did have more seizures but not as violent as the first two incidents.

The admiral nurse told me that in neurological conditions it is quite common for epilepsy to develop along the way

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Kevin_1 in reply to Spiralsparkle

Thanks for that Spiralsparkle - I didn't know it was that common.

Waiving at you.

Warmly

Kevin

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Spiralsparkle in reply to Kevin_1

She did give me a percentage but that has long escaped my memory.

The neurologist said it wasn't common but I'd trust the Nurse opinion more as she has worked hands on for 30 years in neurological areas.

Kevin

Thinking about you and Liz,no words that I can say can make it all better,except sending you massive hugs from across the pond.

Deidre

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Kevin_1 in reply to

Hi Deidre

Thanks waving back :)

Hugs

Kevin

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Megabrew88

Oh Kevin,

Sending you and Liz, love and light and hugs!

Mx

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Kevin_1 in reply to Megabrew88

Light and Love is all there is really.

A lovely thought. Thank you.

Hugs to you :)

Kevin

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Heady

Sending big hug and much love

Lots of love

Anne

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Kevin_1 in reply to Heady

Hugs to you too Anne.

Warmly

Kevin

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Tippyleaf

Sorry to hear that Kevin. The only positive seems to be the effective pharmacological interventions.

Love the valentines card. Years ago I bought my hubby a TShirt saying Juan in a million and I was thrilled this year to find a “ one in a melon” jokey valentines card and my husband smiled and remembered the T-shirt. Hope your card will have had a similar moment of shared memories.

Sending you both lots of love and hugs

Tippy

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Kevin_1 in reply to Tippyleaf

Thanks Tippy

One in a melon really made me smile - nice one!

Yes, It's the PSP surprise lottery isn't it.

Hope things are going fairly well at your end.

Warmly

Kevin

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Katiebow

Sending my love to you both, what a shitty disease this is Kevin, whoever thought this one up was feeling very vengeful. Glad Liz is settled again, bet you wonder what can be thrown at you both next!

Much love

Kate xxx

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Kevin_1 in reply to Katiebow

Hi Katie

Yes... Emotionally it knocks me over, then I pick myself up, again.

We all know that one, eh?

Warmly

Kevin

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Sarah1972

Love Banksy Kevin. Liz and you are such fighters xx

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Kevin_1 in reply to Sarah1972

xx

We have no choice eh?

Damned illness!

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Yvonneandgeorge

Thinking of you Kevin x

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Kevin_1 in reply to Yvonneandgeorge

You too Yvonne :)

xx

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Kevin

Love to Liz and to you. The thing to remember is she won't remember what happens. It sounds too as though the new medication might be working as this one was not as bad as the last one. She might need an increase in the dose though?

Take care.

Marie x

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Kevin_1 in reply to Marie_14

Hi Marie

They are only giving the meds. as and when.

GP is going to review.

I think you might be right.

I hope things are going fairly well for you. :)

Warmly

Kevin

xx

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Cuttercat

Charles only had one seizure. It was two weeks before he passed. He was more coherent afterwards. They are unusual to be sure. And PSP is so unpredictable. Take care of both of you and cherish this time. I wish I had.

Cuttercat

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Kevin_1 in reply to Cuttercat

Oh. Cuttercat

It's miserable and then it gets more miserable.

Shedding a little tear for your loss.

Warmly

Kevin

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doglington

Thinking of you both, Kevin.

Love the card.

Jean xxx

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Kevin_1 in reply to doglington

Hi Jean

Thanks

Kevin

xxx

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LostinHeadSpace

Ah Kevin! Love to you and Liz.

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Kevin_1 in reply to LostinHeadSpace

Thank you :)

Warmly

Kevin

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Birdman34265

Hi Kevin ,it's great to see the communication going between you and Liz and these seizures must be troubling for you,at least the meds are working and making Liz comfortable,keep strong xx Peter and Kathy

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Kevin_1 in reply to Birdman34265

Hi both :)

Yes, I think they have got things as good as can be.

Wishing you both the best that can be.

Warmly

Kevin

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Thinking of you both Kevin and Liz.

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Kevin_1 in reply to georgeg25

Thanks George

Thinking of you too.

I hope things are fairly OK for you.

Warmly

Kevin

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georgeg25

Thank you Kevin. Ups and downs. Take one at a time. Best wishes to you and Liz. x

Just a quick note to let you & Liz know that axes will be thrown tomorrow at my home & l will be baking my famous Granni's Nutritional Oatmeal & Raisin Cookies today for tomorrow's event. So l am inviting everyone here to use their imaginations & join us.

Tomorrow's main project is tearing apart my patio blocks by the pond... l asked my son to take them to his new home & create a patio. He built mine when he was 16 & it was lovely & well used for years. But l can no longer carry my cup of tea that far so l will be content to visit his new patio with a cup of tea.

Also want to let everyone know this week news... hubby & l dedecided to stay in our log home. When the pasture becomes too much for us to mow... we will let Mother Nature take over. Sending Love & Hugs, Granni B

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doglington in reply to

Hope we get a photo !

I'll imagine the taste of the cookie.

I am allowing my grass to naturalise too. Hoping for wild flowers.

love from Jean xx

in reply to doglington

Hi Jean, once l sprinkled a packet of wild flower seeds into the air in a haphazard way... but l guess Mother Nature is the only one that system works for. Sending hugs... Granni B

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doglington in reply to

I'd so like to join you !

I love a good laugh and we could be banished to a corner. I quite fancy a go with an axe to be honest.

Love Jean xx

in reply to doglington

I was lucky... first (& last) ax stuck. My son put all three in the bullseye. To cold for more throws... so met up for lunch with the kids & had a nice time... kept my foot out of my mouth (yeah).

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Kevin_1 in reply to

Grannie B

What a delightful post, full of love and nice things... and axes. lol!!!

I love the, "Granni's Nutritional Oatmeal & Raisin Cookies" I can see them in the supermarkets already.

Such a lovely thought to move your patio to where you can better drink tea as a Brit I applaud your planning :)

And, yes Liz and I will be there in Spirit and we do want photos.

Is there no one with a horse or a pet cow who would use your pasture?

Have a great day... and thank you for the lovely smiles you have put on my face today dn Liz's tomorrow.

Hugs to you, you are amazing GranniB!

:)

in reply to Kevin_1

Kevin , I think the cookies are in the store... using the name Quaker... l borrowed their recipe.

Our pasture has never been fenced. We used to have a pony but he was content to be stay with us and not wander off... l always believed he thoght he was a dog. l have offered to let my neighbor bring her lamas over to graze. They are such lovely animals but watch out... they can spit a far distance.

My son cannot make it over today but the Ax Throwing will still happen so pack your imaginary bags & swim across the pond. Sending Hugs... Granni B

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Kevin_1 in reply to

Saw your other post.

Never mind the axes, have a great lunch. :)

The lamas will be fun to watch.

Have a great day

Hugs

Kevin

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Oh, Kevin, l will still be throwing axes... hope the kids will join me... they need to have some fun & work off frustrations of all their wedding talk. Last week they came for blueberry waffles & brought their gorgeous husky pup... my cat tried to escape & jumped on the kitchen table... the pup flew through the air & landed on the table... the kids were mortified. I had a silly laugh at the kid's reaction while hubby saved Miss Aggie. One more memory to add to my log cabin book.

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NanBabs

Hugs to you both. Thinking of you on this awful roller coaster.

xx

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Kevin_1 in reply to NanBabs

Thanks

Liz was much better yesterday. Still a little extra-tired. Her girl friends are coming to see her today.

I'm going to make some Portuguese custard tarts with caramel topping for them. (Never made them before). They're great the way they have stuck by her.

XX

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NanBabs in reply to Kevin_1

They do say that you find out who your real friends are in times of need and I found that to be very true - not always those you expect either ! They have stuck by me even after P died.

The Portuguese custard tarts are my favourite but I`ve never been brave enough to make them myself, so well done Kevin - you are putting me to shame. Enjoy.

xx

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Kevin_1 in reply to NanBabs

Of friends that is so true of friends. A number have studies show that when chronic illness rears it's head keeping two or three is typical.

Here you go... They were unbelievably easy... Seriously Cakes are my no go zone normally.

youtube.com/watch?v=GTbRxpX...

Wishing you the very best

xx

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NanBabs in reply to Kevin_1

They look absolutely delicious - I may be tempted to try making some. Well done !

x

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Richard33

Kevin,

We are all rooting for you and Liz. You are a hero on this website.

Richard

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Kevin_1 in reply to Richard33

What a lovely thing to say. Thank you Richard... most day's I feel like I am just a punter struggling through.

Tomorrow I shall wear my underpants outside of my trousers... It will be a grim sight so I shall spare you all the photos lol. I most likely will get an assessment for dementia or arrested.

But hey!

Thanks for being there for us. It makes a real difference.

Best

Kevin

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doglington in reply to Kevin_1

Kevin I have met you so I don't need a photo !!

I trust you will cover yourself with a cape ?

Xxx

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Richard33

Frankly for what you have to go through (and me too bit by bit), if we want to wear our underpants outside our trousers, we damn well will!

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Kevin_1 in reply to Richard33

Absolutely

Should we get the PSP Assoc. logo on them?

:)

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raincitygirl

Hi Kevin, adding my sympathies here. I never expected seizures with Garth's CBD but ultimately thats how he died. So shocking and puzzling.

I'm impressed with you baking custard tarts! So glad Liz has such dedicated love in her life. What else could matter at this point.

❤️❤️❤️. Anne G.

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Kevin_1 in reply to raincitygirl

Hi Anne

Thanks for reaching out.

A Jamie Oliver recipe which didn't have a slug of olive oil in it... amazing! It's a keeper just for that!

They went down well... I have a limited repertoire for sweets... and cake baking is a total no go zone for me... but I can bake a decent baguette, sourdough loaves and fifty more different beads (seriously)... baking a Portuguese custard tarts had my adrenaline going... not my turf... funny 'ole life. Hey, they were edible :) Good enough for me.

I am avoiding here... I am totally gutted about Liz and her protracted struggle. She loves life, even the one she has now... but she has had enough as well. All I can do is be close, hang in there and give her oodles of love and support. I dread visiting her and seeing her suffering, but that's not acceptable, so I put on my face and see her every day unless friends and family are seeing her. Besides, when I am not with her all I can do is think about what I can do to make her life better. I'm sure you and every other carer knows that one.

May I ask? Was it a seizure that took Garth? Was it quick? I am now thinking that it is likely going to be a seizure which will take Liz, but I don't know how that goes.

Thanks for being there for us.

Warmly

Kevin

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raincitygirl in reply to Kevin_1

Hi Kevin, Yes, he had a massive seizure late in the day (an ordinary day) - he'd had step-downs but nothing I'd seen as a seizure before. It may have been some kind of stroke or aneurism - the coroner wouldn't approve an autopsy, and we hadn't completed donation documentation, so I will never know for sure, but it was sure as shootin' some kind of neuro event. It was very quick - he was gone in seconds - before the paramedics arrived (although they hooked him up and tried to get a heartbeat for at least half an hour or more..)

I'm in your corner and rooting for you two, as so many here are. Hang in there, and take care of yourself. PMessage us whenever it may help - you know we'd be right on your doorstep if we could. 😊💖

Anne

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Kevin_1 in reply to raincitygirl

Hi Anne

I suppose it was a good thing that it was fast.

Thank you so much for coming back with this information. I wasn't aware that this could happen with PSP. Though I take your point that you could never be sure it wasn't something else.

Liz is young (60) and she has no history of heart disease, epilepsy etc. So I am of a mind that this is most likely something caused by her PSP.

I will prepare myself and her sisters for the point that her ending might just be quite sudden. We thought we had lost her when she had her first seizure and she has had a second milder one since.

Thanks for your supportive words too. You are great ofering for me to PM you. :)

I do hope things are as good as they can be for you.

Warmly

Kevin

😊💖

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Nanny857

Glad Liz was relaxed and comfortable and in no pain, and that she was able to respond to your questions. Like the valentine card. Keep thinking of you both. xx

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easterncedar

Thinking about you and Liz, Kevin. Concerned for you. Love, EC,

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Kevin_1 in reply to easterncedar

Hi

Sorry, been super busy.

I have just finished scanning all of Liz' photos onto a memory stick so that she can have slide shows... They go back to when she was a baby.

Now the planting season is chasing my tail!

Things are fairly good at the moment. Liz is so fatigued now though.

How are you doing?

Waiving warmly

Kevin

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Tippyleaf in reply to Kevin_1

Hi Kevin

Love the idea of scanning

Photos for a slide show a great way to reminisce.

Good to hear things on a bit more of an even keel though sorry to hear Liz is so fatigued

Love to you both

Tippy

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honjen43

Have not heard much from you for a while! Thinking of you both. Hope all is going as well as expected.

Big hugs to you and Liz.

Jen xxx

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Kevin_1 in reply to honjen43

Hi Jen and Ann

I have been remiss... Sorry.

I decided to give my PC a make over. It's something like 15 years old and was becoming more and more cranky. I replace components from time to time to try and keep it sprightly, but I fear it is nearing its end and so am preparing to build another... that takes a lot of time reading to find the right components... its like lego for not quite grown up men! Nearly there now.

Liz has found some sort of acceptance. She is much more tranquil now. She still has no beliefs in anything after this life. I find it difficult imagining her struggle with just 'End'.

I guess the weather is cooling for you folk in Kiwi-land now Jen.

I do hope all is going well for you both.

Hugs

xxx

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honjen43 in reply to Kevin_1

Good to hear from you!

I just buy a new one when my hardware slows down - then have difficulty driving it!

My grandson upgraded his hard drive, and then found he had to buy a whole new suite of Windows! So hope you have done your homework.

Pleased Liz is tranquil. Give her my love! I guess the concern for her "End" belief does not worry her - hence her tranquility. Not like you, as you are still of a questioning mind!

I constantly find myself 'reunited' with past family through thought and memory - and the odd sensory experience! I still hope to be where they now are.

Yes. Weather is cooling but not quite done with warmth. More misty damp mornings that disrupt flights. Gather we are due for another drenching shortly and are promised a 'warmer than usual' winter. Pleased my heatpump and insulation due shortly, but have not been as cold as in old house!

Kitchen chaos starts in just over a week - then I will be less rich and hopefully have more time to myself. Been hectic project managing everyone by myself! Next move must be the small garden!

Hugs

Jen xxx

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And a helping of hugs from me too, Kevin XXX.

Anne

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Kevin_1 in reply to raincitygirl

Thanks Ann

See above I have replied to you and Jen together.

I do hope that's OK.

Liz has found acceptance, but she is so sad.

We both hug and wait.

Hugs to you

xxx

Kevin

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raincitygirl in reply to Kevin_1

Never any need to apologize, Kevin! I'm glad for the sake of your & Liz's relationship that the little life that's left is more tranquil.

Just want you to know that many of us think of you often and send hugs. ❤️☀️💜

I'm doing as well as I imagine anyone could. I feel a shift in the last month or so. I think I am "accepting" his death now, although I still don't know how I will fill the space left by him.

I take great comfort from the wisdom of others on this site - I know there are no magic numbers ("1 year") but that eventually one does feel better. I have way too much time alone but don't want to go rushing off to volunteer at something then back out because it wasn't thought through!

It's interesting... Almost the exact opposite of where I was at this rime last year: where I had no free time, no energy, no sleep - but the greatest love and purpose in my life!

Life is funny 😉

Big Hugs ❤️💖❤️

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Kevin_1 in reply to raincitygirl

Hi

Yes I know what you are saying, but I don't think I will really understand until our time comes.

The mind is pretty good at healing itself. I put my trust in that.

I do lots of activities to keep me occupied. One might say that is avoidance tho'. I don't go out much or see others, but I've always been a bit of a non joiner.

Wishing you healing.

Warmly + big hugs

Kevin

Thinking about both of you... Sending Hugs.. Granni B

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Kevin_1 in reply to

Thanks Grannie B

Hugs to you

xx

Think of you and Liz often.

Hugs to you both.

Dee

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Kevin_1 in reply to

Hi Dee

Thanks.

I hope things are going OK for you.

Feeling quite quiet and sad here. But, its not too bad.

Hugs to you

Kevin

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