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Procerus revisited

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There is much already published on the medical websites about the facial expressions in psp. Some call it a "worried look" others say "astonished, grimmising, angry". Some have commented about the look "of someone who has just tasted something bad" There are articles written about the wrinkling forehead and the procerus muscles. This is very common in psp and is noteworthy. Doctors who have seen many many psp patients have noticed this unusual appearance. I want to give my theory on why it happens.

My theory is twofold.. (I have given this a great deal of thought)

-One reason of this wrinkling forehead/eyes look is to limit the amount of light coming into the eyes/brain

-The second reason is to try and keep the eyes open when they are drooping and wanting to close.

I know this because it happens to me every day.

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snapper

I agree with the "limit the amount of light" point. my wife cannot cope with bright light and makes exactly this expression.

Jeff

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shasha

I AGREE THAT THE EYES TRY TO LIMIT TH E AMMOUNT OF LIGHT THAT COMES IN AS I TOO FIND THAT TOO DISTRESSIING ... BUT AS YET I DO NOT Have the drooping eyelids ...

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puyella in reply to shasha

hi shasha you will never have drooping eyelids mate you are too young hows it going mate ok I hope and no falls regards to fred hes a champion good on you fred you had better get chopping some more wood winter is nearly here matey well there I should say we will come into our summer in nov see yer mate take care both of you peter jones queensland Australia psp sufferer

and my eyes are subject to light as well but I can open them when I say to myself cmon reg get them open

otherwise you will never finish this em

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shasha in reply to puyella

HI REG , HOW ARE YOU ? NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHY HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR PICTURE AND NAME ON THE SITE - I REALLY LIKED THAT PHOTO OF YOU AND YOUR GOOD LADY /.......

LOVE SHASHA XXX

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puyella in reply to shasha

hi shasha and fred well MAE I WAS HAVING A LOOK AROUND ON THIS SITE BEING NEW AND I SAW THIS BIT ABOUT YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR NAME IF YOU WISH TO SO I THOUGHT BEING INQUISITIVE I WANT TO HAVE A LOOK AT THAT WELL I DID HAVE A LOOK AND A FIDDLE AROUND WHICH I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PRESED A FEW BUTTONS HERE AND THERE AND LOW AND BEHOLD THE NAME CHANGE WAS COMPLETE W ITH PUYELLA I GUESS I PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTONS AY MATE NOW I JUST COULD NOT FIND MY WAY BACK TO WHERE IT SAID

SOMETHING ABOUT FACE BOOK SO BEING COMPUTER MINDED I SAID BUGGER IT AND IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE GOT THR NAME OF PUYELLA WHCH I DID NOT LIKE ANYWAY

THEMS THE BREAKS I GUESS I ILL SAY SEE YER MATE IT WAS NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU

AGAIN MATE SO TAKE CARE GO EASY ON THE FIREWOOD FRED YOU HAD BETTER LEAVE SOME TREES THERE MATEY

\\\\\\ OK MATE I HOPE EVERYTHNG GOES WELL FOR YOU TWO

\\\\\\\ PETER JONES PSP SUFFERER QYIUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA

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shasha in reply to puyella

HA HA HE HE, HOW FUNNY IS THAT ? FRED SENDS HIS BEST AND SAYS TH\T HE ONLY TAKES THE FALLEN TREES ...BUT WE SHOULD NOW HAVE ENOUGH TO KEEP US GOING TIL XMAS WHEN WE SHOULD BE OUT OF HERE BY THEN AS WE HAVE NOW GOT A BUYER FOR OUR HOUSE !!

LOVE SHA SHA X

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puyella in reply to shasha

shassha that's great news sha sha even better for fred no more chopping wood are you going back to the uk mate take care peter jones queenslnd Australia psp bloke

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shasha in reply to puyella

HI REG - SORRY NOT TO HAVE RESPONDEDTO YOU BLOGG UNTIL NOW BUT I DID NOT SEE IIT ... YES WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE UK DESPITE OUR SON'S SAYING WE ARE MAD AS THE HEATH SERVICE IS SO MUCH BETTER IN FRANCE - BUT YOU KJNOW I JUST DONT WANT TO DIE IN FRANCE I KNOW IT WONT BE FOE A WHILE YET BUT IF WE BUY A PROPERTY HERE THEN WE SHANT EVER GET BACK TO THE UK

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ?

LOVE TO YOU AND YOUR GOOD LADY

#

SHARON XXX

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puyella in reply to shasha

hi sha sha yes mate I do understand it if that's what you want to do go ahead and do it the weather iust about the same in france as England mate isn't it so your not going into something new are you I say good luck to fred and your good self \\ only you and fred will know if you have made the right move or not anyway good luck sha and fred take care A CHANGE IS AS GOOD AS A REST so they say mate see yer i wish for you and fred me old wood chopping mate the best of everything peter jones or puyella queensland Australia psp sufferer

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puyella in reply to puyella

sha sha we'll keep a welcome in the hillside we''ll keep a welcome in the dales this land you knew will still be singing when you come home again to WALES go for it mate this land you knew will keep a welcome and with a love that never fails we'll kiss away each hour of erie

when you come home again to wales\\\ its been along time see yer sha sha

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cabbagecottage in reply to shasha

Hope your house sale goes ok . Are you coming back to Wales

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shasha in reply to cabbagecottage

hello cabbage cottage,

yes we are hoping to get to wales or the borders but will have to rent somewhere in the meantime ... remind me where you live c c?

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cabbagecottage in reply to shasha

We live in Newport S Wales or rather Rogerstone which is on the outskirts

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puyella in reply to shasha

hi sha sha there I found I again does this make you happy mate a change is as good as a rest so they say anybody out there that want to change there psp mates I would like to get rid of mine I will let it go to a good home with love and care no money involved just a straight swap I am still breathing and upright and at the moment i have all my faculties but thats debateable amongst some of you I would think but I cant help that anyway have a great \day everyone and take care from sha sha and me peter jones queensland Australia psp sufferer im the one on the left of the photo that has the psp by the way the other one is my wife and carer and soulmate

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mcfly

thanks for all your replies. Just want to add this excerpt from Swiss Medical Journals, ""In addition to the oculomotor abnormalities, in PSP contracture of frontalis muscles with upraised eyebrows, conveying the characteristic stare, as well as eyelid disorders such as blepharospasms and eyelid apraxia, are fairly common. Furthermore, while glabellar sign (inability to suppress the blink on frontal finger tap) is generally seen in parkinsonism, its visual variant (elicited by bright light), along with photophobia, is more common in PSP."

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puyella in reply to mcfly

HI MRS MCFLY GOD I MUST LOOK A MESS THEN ESPESCIALLY WITH THE GLABELLAR SIGN I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SIGN OF A BLUEBIRD THAT EVERYONE LOOKED FOR TO SEE IF YOU HAD PSP OR NOT ANYWAY WE '-VE GOT IT PETER JONES QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA PSP SUFFERER

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flicka in reply to puyella

I love you Peter Jones , You are SO valiant. Flicka

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puyella

flika I love you to im a bit of a pest as well mate

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jillannf6

hi peter/ s ha and all

good to see your post peter and that you are being so positive re thsi PSP

it is not easy i know but keep it up mate

lol Jill

and sha i hope ur move goes ok - when will ti happen?

and a smiel for this autumnal day in the UK :-)

S:aints won agians the pie eaters ~Wigan last ngiht so that is a Red letter day for me

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