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PMR/GCA ‘STRESS’ AND ‘SOCIAL’ MODELS OF HEALTH AND WELL BEING

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Hello Everyone

Firstly to say how much I appreciate this forum and the huge diversity of contributions to it. In the last 18 months I have learned so much from all of you and been able to manage my PMR/GCA and my life so much better than I could ever have done without it. Please forgive the length of my post below but given recent considerations I wanted to be as clear as I could about what I wanted to say:

I am sure that there is nobody on this forum who would disagree absolutely with the comment that we all live in a complicated and often ‘stressful’ world. We can ‘choose’ to turn off our media – smartphones, and landlines, radios, televisions and computers – any of the receivers of external information - if we like – but we would mostly also agree that is usually only a temporary solution if we are trying to ‘avoid’ the chaos of our world. To do so for extended periods of time would keep us isolated, out of touch and quite literally dis-connected – some of the worst ingredients spelled out by health practitioners and researchers as impacting our general health – mental, physical and emotional. This is almost ‘common knowledge’ now as ‘social models’ of health have shifted perspectives which were once more narrowly physiological or ‘biomedical’ to encompass the importance of our environments, social inequities and the importance of ‘positive’ interpersonal and social relationships for ourselves and those around us.

Regardless of the focus on the value of social interconnectedness and well-being we also know that ‘loneliness’ seems to be increasing – and there are many various debates and discussions about the causes of this – one of them being the intense engagement with digital technologies – rather than face to face human interactions. While this makes rather obvious ‘sense’ any consideration also needs to include the invaluable media connections for people who are unable to facilitate (for whatever reasons) those direct ‘real’ up close relationships. Families and friends that once lived – not so many decades ago – in the same street are now often scattered all over the globe and their primary connections are often now by phone or face-time as grandparents (for example) watch their grandchildren ‘grow – up’ even if 1000's of miles away ….

So ‘things’ are complicated as always – we are more interconnected in some ways than ever and yet often more isolated and lonely – and it is difficult to turn off the non face-to-face or ‘digital’ interconnections we have with the world without throwing the ‘baby out with the bath water’ but in not doing so we are inevitably also linked to the horrors on the globe it as well as its ‘beauties’. Yes we can do a bit of filtering – I for example literally cannot watch violent images – ‘real’ or (purportedly) ‘fictitious’ as they truly sicken me – I literally want to throw up and my stress levels go through the ceiling. Maybe I am not ‘typical’ and this is because for years I worked in prevention of violence and child sexual and other abuses – writing education programmes for children, parents, teachers and anyone else who would listen – and eventually felt I just could not do that anymore – I badly ‘needed’ to retreat to a quiet garden.

However for me ‘escaping to the garden’ was and could only ever be temporary – although it is sheer joy sometimes NOT to think of anything non-botanical as I plant a tree or pick some fruit – at least not to think about things over which I feel I have ‘no control’ and which often only make me feel frustrated, horrified and ill. But I have realised I could not be like a friend who told me she never listens to or watches any ‘news’ or current affairs discussion – and is much ‘happier’ for it. But it is simply not in my nature to ignore the cruelty and inhumanity in the world - otherwise I only feel ‘complicit’ - which for me is an even worse feeling – so I still attempt to stay abreast of multiple issues relating to the prevention (and necessarily perpetration) of violence of all kinds.

This - the massive issue of VIOLENCE world-wide is now anyway almost unavoidable – whether in people’s homes, communities, on the streets, in schools … almost ‘everywhere’ and for those who stay ‘connected’ – it is often seen -frequently ‘normalised’ in the media via non-emotive news reports or worse still as ‘entertainment’ – often in the form of horrific pornography, extreme torture scenes with a ‘new’ visceral hyperbolic resonance of sheer brutality in amplified sounds of kicks, punches and beatings as enhanced by ‘clever’ audio technicians. Now finding anything much in film libraries or on the main media platforms which is not ‘shot through’ with some degree of traumatising cruelty and violence is increasingly difficult.

Whether the intention is to deconstruct and critique violence or whether it is merely being ‘reconstructed’ is often questionable (regardless of fiction/non-fiction formats) as all of us at some level – even if unconsciously - must ultimately as 'witnesses' experience increased ‘stress’ - ('adrenaline' hits are regarded I know by some as desirable) with the possibility of accrued even if subliminal long lasting psychological and emotional impacts. (It is for example noteworthy that PTSD is generally regarded as a pyschological 'illness' but probably should be construed as a 'normal' human response to the most extreme of circumstances). Add these less than positive cultural factors to what we are told about current and looming horrors of climate change, intermittent if hyperbolic rhetorical threats of nuclear exchanges - and the all the current multifarious ‘disasters’ on our planet – it seems almost impossible to exist without a high degree of concern and ‘stress’.

It could be argued that there is significant ‘evidence’ with the rapidly increasing incidence (or diagnoses) of AI illnesses such as PMR/GCA -(strongly suspected as having links to environmental triggers see below**) OK yes we know we likely need the ‘genetic’ propensity but ‘stressful’ triggers are now almost everywhere. Should we be surprised then that many more women (also globally the main targets of violence and abuses) than men develop these conditions … and just WHAT can we do to prevent all this, or to get better and then stay well !!??

The thing is if we ‘switch off’ the ‘horrors of the world’ and pretend they have nothing to do with us it might help for a while – but I think not for most of us – we are after all ‘social creatures’ and apparently do better and even live longer if we do engage with others - if only ‘digitally’. The detachment and compartmentalisation of ourselves and our feelings – and avoidance of anything which disturbs our ‘emotions’ can help temporarily but ultimately also can detach us from the very thing we NEED most and that is ‘eachother’ and caring about ‘eachother’.

My main point is – we really DO need to stay engaged and speak and write and express our thoughts, feelings and perspectives about the tough stuff within our own lives as well as what we ‘see’ and experience in the world. If we find something horribly disturbing we can – yes – not read it or switch it off – but we must be aware that it won’t then just evaporate – ‘ it’ will likely continue hurting someone else – ‘others’ – somewhere else.

This then is yes I know a DILEMMA !!! but if we feel in any way the world IS making us ‘SICK’ this leaves us then I think no option – we must somehow change things, personally, interpersonally and socially – even ‘globally’ (some would say ‘politically’) if we want our children, grandchildren and future generations to ever have the opportunity to live well and BE truly ‘well’ .

Best and kindest wishes to all

Rimmy

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**Stress as a trigger of Autoimmune Disease

Autoimmune Review 2008 7 (3) 209-13

Stojanovich L, Marisvljevich, D.,

Abstract:

‘The etiology of autoimmune diseases is multifactorial: genetic, environmental, hormonal, and immunological factors are all considered important in their development. Nevertheless, the onset of at least 50% of autoimmune disorders has been attributed to "unknown trigger factors". Physical and psychological stress has been implicated in the development of autoimmune disease, since numerous animal and human studies demonstrated the effect of sundry stressors on immune function. Moreover, many retrospective studies found that a high proportion (up to 80%) of patients reported uncommon emotional stress before disease onset. Unfortunately, not only does stress cause disease, but the disease itself also causes significant stress in the patients, creating a vicious cycle. Recent reviews discuss the possible role of psychological stress, and of the major stress-related hormones, in the pathogenesis of autoimmune disease. It is presumed that the stress-triggered neuroendocrine hormones lead to immune dysregulation, which ultimately results in autoimmune disease, by altering or amplifying cytokine production….’

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Many thanks for sharing your thoughts I will have to read your post through again possibly more than once. I can see how the stresses of life as we grow up come back to haunt us, current events also have their own impact. Sometimes I just have to go out into the garden and ‘just be’ while the subconscious works out what to do or not. All good wishes, I’m off now to have a good think in the garden.

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Rimmy in reply to CT-5012

Thank you and yes gardens are SUCH a 'saving grace' ...

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SheffieldJane

Thank you so much for your uplifting think piece. I find myself in total agreement with the points you make, so eloquently.

I feel physical pain if I inadvertently watch fictional torture/ violence. The lead up to PMR for me was filled with unavoidable and extremely painful stress. I was caring for my mum with frontal lobe dementia and discovering that she had been systematically robbed by a close relative.

I had to give up after 2 years of intensive work with the victims of domestic violence because I simply could not bear their pain anymore and was getting sick.

I cannot ignore the state that the world is in, it would feel like ignoring a fire in the hold of a ship as I sailed along.

Thank you Rimmy for putting it into words, it makes me feel less alone.

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Rimmy in reply to SheffieldJane

And thank YOU SJ for your as usual sensitive, intelligent and thoughtful response.

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Wow! Many thanks for sharing your thoughts Rimmy... so very honest, moving and compelling! It was this statement that struck me, " ... we are more interconnected in some ways than ever and yet often more isolated and lonely." Many of us, stuck in our homes (because we can't get out, or no longer feel comfortable out there in the "real world) sit alone, with our faces pushed into a digital screen for much of the day. When we find others who can relate to our illnesses and our loneliness, we clutch into them like a long lost friend! It temporarily dulls the pain and loneliness, but before long we find ourselves sitting alone staring at the wall. I believe we are definitely more connected and more lonely. xxx

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Thanks Melissa for your generous comments - you are always so very kind - and

yes it is such a strange contradiction that 'loneliness' is so prolific in this age of purported 'connectedness' - it is clear that we all need more of 'real' people or at least more face to face connections. Sadly though I don't see this will happen any time soon - when so much else seems to be geared against it - but at least this is now being recognised as a major problem with the UK appointing Tracey Crouch as the first ever 'Minister for Loneliness'

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How very sad that we need a Minister for Loneliness. : (

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Thank you. Excellent thoughts.

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Rimmy in reply to PMRpro

Very kind thanks PMRpro !!

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scats

Thankyou so much for expressing your thoughts so eloquently. I found myself agreeing with everything you said. I totally abhor violance and could never see it as 'entertaining'. Why do so many games involve not just violence but killing?

I have never found making friends easy in the real world and put great importance on my friends here.

Most of my pleasures come from nature especially growing things and I enjoy most forms of creativity especially if the end product has a use.

As for your last point I do find the world threatening. I find I am always checking for alterior motives, commercial backing, checking emails etc. I avoid facebook etc. too connected. I don't have a phone that tells people where I am. Sad but I don't trust anyone any more except for very close family. I like the anonimity of the forum I feel I can be me. Even then it took two years of reading before I was confident enough to post! Perhaps I'm just neurotic.

As for stress in my life.

Early retirement because of stress at work.

Moved house ( 100 miles ) to care for elderly parents because my sister who lived nextdoor to them didn't have the time.

Ten years of helping both parents, mother eventually with dementia.

PMR!

Nothing unusual but I suspect it's acclumative.

Modern life is stressful. Stress was designed for fright and flight I haven't been able to do the latter for some years now so I think I have quite a bit of the former to work off.

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Rimmy in reply to scats

Thanks Scats - I understand your concerns about 'trust' - it is difficult to be 'open' with people when we know little about them and forming close relationships is not always easy when the world doesn't seem 'beneficent much of the time. Still if you can bring yourself to meet with others - say in a community group - gardening, exercise whatever - on any basis of common interest at all - then great benefits can ensue -as all the 'evidence' suggests those kinds of 'relationships' are very good for our health and well being.

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HeronNS

Wow, I'll have to bookmark this post to read it in its entirety later today! I've found since PMR/pred that I deliberately have to choose my battles and have distanced myself from many issues which used to take up a lot of energy. A simple example: I've been trying to get involved in a bookclub and dutifully have read the books, although haven't always been able to get to the meetings. But the current book is The Boat People, and when I started reading it and realized it was going to be teaching me a lesson I already know and there would be no good outcome I decided not to finish it. I read the last few pages to confirm my gut feeling. I think I'll still go to the meeting (need to socialize) and maybe share my reaction if it seems appropriate. I have felt myself starting to burn up if I get too stressed about something, especially things I can do nothing about. PMR/pred has changed the trajectory of my life and in the big picture maybe this is no bad thing?

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Rimmy in reply to HeronNS

Happy 'outcomes' are also not the subject of many books I've read lately either and i forced myself to finish a book about North Korea which was truly depressing. Still a book club is a great place to vent if you need to and as I said to Scats there are lots of great reasons to join in with 'groups' regardless of the 'organising principle'. It is interesting that those who belong to one or more of these is generally healthier and 'happier' than people who don't and who feel quite isolated.

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Zofitmogelijk

Thank you

Rimmy, for this “ food for thought “ there is a resonance within me. I would never be able to put things in words like you did. Close relatives my generation died and my friend left not being able to handle the disease. I can no longer play in the baroque orchestra always giving me great joy. Can work in the garden but only a short time. And Yes there you find me sitting with my IPad, seems like a second hand life. That makes this forum so invaluable real people and real Exchange. People who are or have been there. Makes it easier for me not to think I have done something completely wrong without knowing what . Thanks Rimmy and all of you for being supportive and hope I can mean something for others too

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Rimmy

Thanks ! - such an important thing is always in the end 'the garden' - so good for you ! - but I understand you must miss your orchestra - I played the flute for many years.

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karools16

Whew! A lot to take in, but really good writing. If we ignore the state the world is in, we surely cannot have a conscience.Stress, and we know where that leads, seems to be the order of the day.

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