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Diluting blood plasma rejuvenates tissue, reverses aging in mice

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medicalxpress.com/news/2020...

"In 2005, University of California, Berkeley, researchers made the

surprising discovery that making conjoined twins out of young and old

mice—such that they share blood and organs—can rejuvenate tissues and

reverse the signs of aging in the old mice. The finding sparked a flurry

of research into whether a youngster's blood might contain special

proteins or molecules that could serve as a "fountain of youth" for mice

and humans alike.

But a new study by the same team shows that similar age-reversing effects can be achieved by simply diluting the blood plasma of old mice—no young blood needed."

Plasmapheresis could potentially be used to selectively remove aging factors from the blood.

Most PD is age related and rejuvenation therapies could prevent PD or slow progression.

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chartist profile image
chartist

Rhyothemis,

Very interesting article and already FDA approved and in use! It sounds fairly simple and noninvasive. It seems like a review of patients who have had this procedure would be very enlightening!

Art

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jeffreyn in reply to chartist

Yes, especially a review of PD patients, if there are any.

So it looks like we may not need "young plasma" (nor a drug containing the "essence" of young plasma).

We may just need to dilute our "old plasma"!

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MarionP in reply to jeffreyn

From good old California, land of zombie and vampire movies! I'll bite.

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Rhyothemis in reply to chartist

Yes, it looks like it could be good, but I try not to get too excited about stuff since there are so many things like this that seem to go nowhere. For example automated driving technology - ten years ago I expected not to have to drive anymore by this time. Around 40,000 people are killed and many more left disabled by traffic accidents each year in the US - one would think automated driving would be a priority. ((shrug))

I need to look up the original research article and see if they have identified the pro-aging factors; there may be ways to downregulate some of them.

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MarionP in reply to Rhyothemis

Auto driving is coming, replacing workers is very good for business and that's why it was pushed so well by the big private equity and risk capital people...pretty much "turning the corner" (sorry about that) as we speak.

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LAJ12345

Can your plasma be diluted by donating blood/ plasma and letting your plasma regenerate or would the new plasma contain the same amount of aging factors?

Wouldn’t the young mouse’s organs help cleaning up the blood of the old mouse a bit like dialysis?

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jeffreyn in reply to LAJ12345

Q1: I think that donating blood/plasma would probably have a similar effect. But there are limits to how much you can donate at one time, and how long you must wait between donations. It raises a good question: Do blood/plasma donors tend to live longer?

Q2: I think that the organs of the young mouse may well have been trying to "clean up" the blood of the old mouse, but the experiment showed that the young mouse was still adversely affected by the old blood. Or maybe the organs of the young mouse do not recognize these old proteins as something to be removed?

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MarionP in reply to jeffreyn

The idea might be to "dilute" or perhaps filter, or both, rather than donate, and plasmapheresis is extremely unhealthy for the donor anyway.

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Rhyothemis in reply to MarionP

Plasmapheresis can be autologous.

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Rhyothemis in reply to LAJ12345

I think you would have to donate too much and plasma donation is not without risks, even for young, healthy people -

ndsuspectrum.com/the-danger...

Regular blood donation might be good for men and non-menstruating women since it can reduce iron overload, but people should probably get their dr.'s okay first.

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Rhyothemis

Journal article:

aging-us.com/article/103418...

It's pretty involved; I hope Life Extension Advocacy Foundation does one of their 'journal club' video reviews on it.

"The above concept fits well with the age-imposed increase in systemic

TGF-beta family ligands (GDF11 and TGF-beta 1, for example), which

contributes to pro-geronic phenotypes [7, 14, 1544–47] and the fact

that attenuation of TGF-beta signaling in old animals has effects

that are similar to those of NBE [7, 14, 15, 28, 44]. NBE is also

predicted to promote stronger rejuvenation than an Alk5 inhibitor, as

that attenuates just one branch of one pathway, and because proteins

other than the TGF-beta family that are elevated with age will be

re-set to their younger levels of gene expression and/or signaling

intensities by NBE/TPE (to be profiled in the future). Fitting the

model that is shown in Figure 6 with experimental data on multiple

time points after NBE/TPE, for multiple proteins and multiple levels

of regulation (mRNA, protein, signaling intensities), is a focus of

our long-term work.

One thing that occurs to me is that the dilution will probably stimulate production of erythropoietin (EPO) [I think it did but I'm not sure I'm interpreting the figures correctly] and that will have effects on iron homeostatis. The authors mention EPO -

"an increase in erythropoietin is likely to improve the numbers and health of erythrocytes, attenuating age-imposed anemia" - I think that statement rather short-sells the effects of EPO.

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jeffreyn

I did a quick search to look for articles, blog posts etc which went beyond just reproducing the press release. I found two.

Young Blood and Old Blood (see last two paragraphs): blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeli...

More Evidence for Dilution of Harmful Factors in Aged Blood to be the Primary Mechanism of Parabiosis Benefits: fightaging.org/archives/202...

If you've got the time, some of the comments are worth a read also (particularly on the first one).

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jeffreyn in reply to jeffreyn

Plus an interview with the two main players (Irina and Michael Conboy): lifespan.io/news/diluting-b...

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jeffreyn in reply to jeffreyn

In the interview they say that clinical trials are planned for fibrotic diseases, inflammatory diseases, and type 2 diabetes or associated metabolic diseases.

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