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“Think deep, do good science and do not panic!”A few considerations on the corona crisis. Dr. Jeanmonod MD, Roxanne Jeanmonod & Dr. Neirynck

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Credit Parkie brought this to our attention.

For those who do not know, Dr. J is the neurosurgeon in Switzerland doing the FUS PTT procedure (which I had 3/11.)

The views expressed are those solely of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of this station.

This paper will make you less fearful whether or not you buy into the theory.

off-guardian.org/2020/04/07...

That's me on the left and Dr. J in the middle and Dr. Gallay on the right. If this were a better picture, you'd see why I'm often mistaken for Brad Pitt

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SilentEchoes

Thank you for this information. It appears that the infection rate and mortality rate are in line with other seasonal viral infections.

The problem with SARS-2 (COVID-19) is that it is highly contagious and is striking large groups at the same time and overburdening our healthcare system. True.

The purpose for stay at home orders is to flatten the curve - too many people getting sick at once. The media has seized on this to incite panic, like they do with sporadic measles outbreaks. It drives ratings and revenue.

We're going to have to balance the damage to our economy and the damage to our healthcare system which is also part of the economy. People need to go back to work and practice safe social behavior to limit the spread of illness - a behavior we are not accustom to here in the US.

The data we don't have is what percentage of the population has natural immunity OR antibodies to SARS-2. I suspect this virus was already circulating unrecognized and attributed to seasonal flu until it reached pandemic levels. I also suspect that some (many) people are naturally immune due to prior exposure to a related coronavirus and experienced mild or no symptoms of infection. That's the information I want to know.

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MBAnderson in reply to SilentEchoes

I agree. I LUV Dr. J, but I disagree with a couple points. I don't feel we're panicked and there is something else going on here beyond the data he cites -- because 20,000 people died in the past month which doesn't happen yearly and the number of explosive clusters around the country also does not happen every year.

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bepo

Outstanding post!

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rescuema

I knew it was you on the left before reading your disclosure with that big smile!

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MBAnderson in reply to rescuema

ha

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Xenos

Thank you Marc. Very interesting paper.

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Despe

You got there, Marc. :) Middle or left?? You are all very handsome. :)

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Despe in reply to Despe

You got ME. . . (correction).

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WinnieThePoo

Looking good Marc!

I too like dr J. This one however fails my common sense check. I confess i skimmed, it won no awards for brevity, but it's theme was "it's not so different from flu and other seasonal epidemics". That doesn't really square with the experience in Italy or New York, where undertakers are unable to meet demand and hospitals full to overflowing. And that's after taking social distancing measures.

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MBAnderson in reply to WinnieThePoo

it is seriously long.

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Kwww

Saw figures last night in uk in last couple of weeks deaths way over averaged figures from same time period for last five years. And increase matched increase in corona deaths. Of people who had coronovirus and died they were saying 86% died because of. So this looks an underestimate. Check Dr Campbell's video on youtube.

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Gioc

nice picture, nice article, it's very nice to see you smile like that.thank you.

IMHO All numbers relating to the dead, infected, asymptomatic, in all countries are incomparable to each other. Everyone, because in an emergency situation everything happened, from the lack of reagents to the refusal of hospitalization by the sick themselves to the massacre of the residences of the elderly. We in Italy count all the patients who are positive as dead from the virus even if they had other serious diseases, while other countries do not. All numbers are not comparable because there are inconsistent and related incomparable situations.

Gio

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Parkie-

"Credit Parkie brought this to our attention" : Credit to Trixiedee who brought it to my attention.

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MBAnderson in reply to Parkie-

nothing escapes her attention

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Parkie- in reply to MBAnderson

Yes, Trixi is the best! Thanks to her for bringing Lenamm's FUS experience to this forum.

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MBAnderson in reply to Parkie-

REALLY!! Over the next few years, she will have single-handedly saved several dozen PWP.

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Trixiedee in reply to MBAnderson

Hopefully I’ll be sporting the fashionable shaved head look sometime this year. Thanks for the nice comments ❤️😊

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MBAnderson in reply to Trixiedee

We are all rooting for you!!

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Parkie- in reply to Trixiedee

Does that mean Dr J has agreed to do the surgery?

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Trixiedee in reply to Parkie-

I haven’t contacted him. Not much point when borders are closed. I will soon though.

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Parkie-

I believe there are flaws in some of his data, for example: Scandinavian countries, number of cases, and others.

However, I think his paper is right about the general idea of overreacting and panic contributing in aggravating cases of covid19:

"Fear and anxiety are felt indeed typically at the cardio-respiratory level, with dyspnea (choking feeling) and heart palpitations.’’

And 24h / 7 day a week coverage, for weeks now, of the following, certainly affects people's health in a negative way, contributing to the downfall, provoking fear-based chain reactions:

"Images have been displayed all over the world of bad science fiction scenes, with human silhouettes installed in beds surrounded by alien-looking fully masked and dressed-up doctors and nurses, dead streets swept with gross disinfectant systems, the close-up picture of the initiating Chinese doctor with panicky eyes over a ventilation device"

Marc: if it's you on the left, you sure look like Dr J!!! And wearing his Sonimodul shirt too?

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MBAnderson in reply to Parkie-

I do feel less fearful. However, I'm going to continue my obsessive level of precautionary practices.

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Parkie- in reply to MBAnderson

It's good that you feel less fearful. I do too. I trust Dr J's opinion and I can overlook some of the data because I feel he is using it to make a general point.

Marc: if it's you on the left, you sure look like Dr J!!! And you are wearing his Sonimodul t-shirt too? (lol)

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MBAnderson in reply to Parkie-

Agree. He is.

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Parkie- in reply to MBAnderson

''Agree. He is'':

I don't understand, you agree he looks like you, or that you are the one in the middle, (not on the left) in the picture?

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MBAnderson in reply to Parkie-

I agree he's making a general point.

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docjleonard55

Thank you so much for bringing this article to our attention. It verifies what my wife has been saying for weeks, but I have been resistant to hear.

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CaseyInsights

Quite a surprising take: fear has overtaken us all.

But here is a view point from a senior paramedic with 17 years experience in NY Emergency Medical Services. He has never seen any thing like this. The call volume is like a 9/11 every day.

Coronavirus in New York: A paramedic's diary

bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-can...

Edit: And this post comes out of the fearless Caribbean.

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reedboat2

32,000 Covid-19 deaths as of yesterday in the United States. Not including those many who died at home without having been tested. That’s just since March 1. Heartbreakingly over 50% of those deaths occurred in nursing homes. This is not normal.

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lenamm

I think it is important to note this was written at the end of March and the numbers have definitely changed since then. However still some very good points .

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