One possible explanation why we still hav... - Cure Parkinson's
One possible explanation why we still have no test kits for the Coronavirus.
Interesting. It is either venality or incompetence, take your pick. Either way not good. Likely disastrous.
I do not think we have a problem in the U.K.
Yes, just in US. They are trying to figure out how to make money out of it and lots of money. I was watching the news this morning and they said only about 8300 of people have been tested for Coronavirus.. So again no tests and they are rationing them out. They are even rejecting doctor's request for a test. I am so angry about it. The president thinks it's just the flu. We have nobody at the helm. The whole world is using the 15 minutes test developed by an American company, FDA won't approve the test for for the use in US. But I guess it's a crazy world.
The Sars-cov-2 is an extremely complex and unique virus with an extremely high virulence rate with the high likely hood of a dual attack system which makes it extremely difficult to control or test for. Test kit development even by US super high tech labs will take time to develop and verify their effectiveness. It isn't simple as 2+2=4.
"The whole world is using the 15 minutes test developed by an American company," Certainly not the whole world by a long shot and certainly not verifiable for 95% of the target population with any high level degree of accuracy.
Garbage in and garbage out.
Sharon
Sharon, I agree with you completely. However using the 15-minute test is better than using nothing and not testing the people that are going to go out and spread it to everybody else.
I agree with you. 50% validity (the norm apparently) is better than zero.
Sharon
WRONG - as P13 so well illustrates, inaccurate test results - like inaccurate news sources - can lead to pointless panic and mindless overreaction by the gullible.
6th patient dies from Covid-19 in UK.
Is the low # a factor of the ACE2 inhibitor being of relatively low dominance in the UK's native (Anglo-Saxon) population? In comparison to Asia were it is dominant.
Os is it because the UK has no Schengen agreement?
Your choice, but give it time before coming to a conclusion.
Sharon
According to Osidge:
"do not think we have a problem in the U.K." Typical la-la land .
UK Health minister (Nadine Dorries) tested positive for COVID-19 today. Believes she is not at risk of dying because she is not "immune distressed" (oh sure, why do you think you were infected...)...She placed herself in self-quarantine.
Of course, much good that will do since the incubation period for COVID-19 can extend backwards for up to 6 weeks which means "everyone" she touched is at risk over that period...especially the last two weeks. Hope she isn't a "super-spreader".
Difficult to understand the way some people think who should know better. Each to his/her own.
Sharon
Please read and understand my posts. We do not have a problem with testing kits!!!!!
Every country has a problem with test kits...both in terms of short supply and lack of validity when used. All test kits is use today have an error rate of at least 50%. Sorry to inform you but that is reality. To think the UK is somehow "special" is something I find difficult to believe given the UK's NHS.
By all means, Believe what you want.
Sharon
Can you please let me know where the 50% error rate figure comes from. I cannot find that about the U.K.
Os:
Stop with the nonsensical "citation" request as if we have had this data for years and several meta-analyses exist examining it. From the virologists I have personally contacted, no test kit in use anywhere is reliable beyond a range of 50-70%. The variability depends to a large extent on whether the individual has the virus or not. False negatives and false positives are equally distributed which is probably why we have "cures" which aren't cures.
Beyond my comprehension why you feel the UK has a test kit superior to any other country. It's health system certainly isn't superior. It's research in virology in this situation in limited to one (1) BSL class 4 lab in Wiltshire. I really doubt they knew enough about what the Chinese were doing to develop a superior test kit in a couple of months. Impossible.
The UK is just beginning a ramp up of cases hitting "supposedly" 456. If the UK follows Italy, the NHS will be wiped out of ICU beds, doctors, nurses, etc. etc. etc.
"nothing to worry about"
Sharon
Many thanks for your helpful post. Should I have expected anything else?
No because I don't tell people on this forum what they want to hear. "nothing to worry about" I believe is what you wanted to hear repeated? Correct?
Self-quarantine because you will eventually be at risk if you fit the typical PD profile. Of course, you can do your own thing given your faith in the UK's NHS.
Sharon
Sadly you could not be more wrong. I am interested in facts - good or bad. You are just a little too full of yourself.
I look at the outcomes of our NHS and your healthcare. Have you?
She's wrong again, what a surprise.
"In a short space of time, South Korea has managed to test more than 140,000 people for the novel coronavirus, using kits with sensitivity rates of over 95%, according to the director of the Korean Society for Laboratory Medicine."
bloomberg.com/news/articles...
"In other countries, the authorities have struggled to keep up with the demand for testing. Chun says one possible explanation is that some places may be testing manually, rather than automatically.
cnn.com/2020/03/12/asia/cor...
How convenient that she challenges everyone else for peer reviewed sources yet dare say not to ask her for "nonsensical citation request" because she somehow claims to know it all.
in Italy we have made 110000 tests, each is analyzed twice in two different laboratories. The test is only for symptomatic people.
corriere.it/salute/malattie...
That’s unfortunate- tests should be available for anyone who was in close contact with the infected. In Korea, it only takes four hours for a result.
She’s always so rude!!!
It is so sad. She has no need to be right all of the time. She acts as if she is everyone’s healthcare professional. Thankfully that is not the reality. Keep well.
She’s actually putting me off reading this forum. I like all the positive support people give, as well as advice which I can take or leave as I see fit.
What are you saying? I don't understand
Progress! You have identified the catalyst for your unfortunate condition.
Time is certainly necessary. I suspect we are just lagging behind.
