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Is most Parkinson's caused by toxins?

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Is most Parkinson's caused by toxins? When the doctor tells you it's idiopathic, could it be toxins? What about hidden toxins in your water, food, and cookware, insecticides, and herbicides?

My husband was sprayed with Agent Orange during VietNam. We are doing the best we can to detoxify from the harmful chemicals that are still in his body, identified through recent testing through Great Plains Lab. He also tests very high in lead and cadmium. That also calls for a detoxification process. Once he has all the toxins out of his body including his brain, I am wondering if his symptoms will improve? I know he will have to rebuild the neurons in his brain, as well. His lead count over the past years has lowered by half, but would still be considered extremely high. We had that test done through Doctor's Data. We had our water, coffee and wine tested for lead through a certified lab, and all were negative.

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MBAnderson profile image
MBAnderson

Thanks for the info. Can you detail your formula for detoxification?

I assume he is getting VA disability?

Agent Orange. As if they did not know a chemical that would defoliate a rain forest within a few days wouldn't be harmful to humans. Hello??

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bepo in reply to MBAnderson

The military knew it was harmful, but had their own agenda. We are fortunate to be able to have both an infrared sauna and an ozone sauna. We also have a PEMF mat. Those help get rid of the toxins. We are very careful about diet, eating 90% organic. He is, seemingly, so normal, many just see a slight tremor as the only symptom.

Calcium EDTA which has been given to him through an IV, helps get rid of the toxins, but it is a slow process. The saunas also work.

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MBAnderson in reply to bepo

Thank you, thank you.

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bepo in reply to MBAnderson

You're welcome. We're all in this together :)

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tarz in reply to bepo

What about chelation therapy for detoxification?

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bepo in reply to tarz

Yes. We have done that through EDTA IV. It's probably time to start it again. Thanks.

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tarz in reply to bepo

It surprises me that no one here has mentioned chelation therapy for detoxification when it is such a widely supported and used method. Am I missing something?

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bepo in reply to tarz

I believe if one is to solely follow allopathic medicine, the pharmaceutical model, they believe anything else is not of value or is quackery. There are also suppositories of EDTA that can help reduce the burden. Sweating is a proven way to reduce toxins.

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bepo in reply to MBAnderson

He is taking mucuna pruriens, 5htp, L- tyrosine, and CoQ10. He takes either infrared saunas or ozone saunas and uses the PEMF mat daily. He exercises daily, well almost..... Fortunately, he can perspire readily, which helps eliminate the toxins. We believe in a multi-prong approach.

I truly believe most, if not all, people who have PD have had toxic, chemical exposure. There are simple tests through Great Plains Lab, where you can see what toxins you have in your body. Very enlightening.

The best avenue I know for detox, is through sweat, so anything that causes a body to perspire is good. The saunas are great for that.

He is getting VA disability. He refused to take the chemical cocktail that doesn't stop the progression, and eventually stops working altogether, for most people.

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MarionP in reply to MBAnderson

Of course they knew. But a lot of times their thinking stops with "not my problem," for several reasons. Someday when I've more time I will relate a story about that from a good buddy who was a career chemistry professor about corporate chemists he told me about when he was knocking around that world.

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park_bear

Permethrin exposure triples the risk of Parkinson's. I believe that is how I got mine. See my writing here for details:

Parkinson's and Pesticides

tinyurl.com/y8tckmx4

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pvw2 in reply to park_bear

Some PD has the know cause of a toxin. The cause of most PD is still considered unknown. Toxins often have symptoms unique to the toxin besides PD.

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MBAnderson in reply to park_bear

Another excellent and exhaustive article, which I recommend everybody read.

I assume you handled Permethrin extensively? As per your article, it pretty clearly is the most dangerous pesticide. Or, how were you exposed to it and how much and at what age?

Just imagine if we all knew early on what we know now. Probably 9/10 of us would not be sick. And what's the lesson in that? We can try to keep our children safer.

Marc

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bepo in reply to MBAnderson

Yes! Now, the unseen threat facing the world is something most of us can't see or feel: EMF'S. How do those frequencies influence the health of those with Parkinson's?

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park_bear in reply to MBAnderson

Permethrin is the active ingredient in the common household flea bomb. Instructions for using it are misleading because they imply it has short duration whereas in fact it is quite persistent - simply airing out the house a few hours after use does nothing to do remove the residue that remains on all surfaces - walls, carpets, desks etc.

I used them a couple times some years before diagnosis.

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bepo in reply to park_bear

So many chemicals cause harm.

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rebtar in reply to park_bear

I used flea bombs a couple of times many years ago...

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bepo in reply to rebtar

Yikes! I did too. Now, I wouldn't consider it.

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LAJ12345 in reply to park_bear

Yeah, we used flea treatments on our cat, and a few years before diagnosis we sprayed pyrethrin spray on edges of carpet as the moths were taking over eating carpet, clothes etc.😬. Also hubby lived over the top of a petrol station for a few years when younger.

But I do think food can be a poison too. If the body is trying to clear other chemicals yet has to battle daily with food with additives, pesticides etc plus not enough of the types of foods needed to help the liver process poisons it may just give up.

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MarionP in reply to MBAnderson

Well, it isn't known to outright cause, much more of an exacerbating factor, and the younger you were when exposed, the extent and manner of exposure, and the length or chroicity of the exposure tends to associate with ever-increasing incidence AND prevalence, just as, say, too much sun will ultimately do... (e.g., farm use, drinking water, residue in food, industrialization) of several disease classes, cancers, Parkinson's, and a number of others...exposure to this and a number of organic pesticdes and herbicides and even feetilizers, generally known as dioxins, organophosphates, permethrins, pyrethrins, cyanides... long large organic molecules or very short ones loaded with naturally very reactive chlorines, flourines, phosphates, nitrogen, which together with the various carbon configurations create these angles of ion power that act like very strong magnets busting through cell walls, tidally or directly pulling out bits of dna or similarly interfering with chemical life processes, lots of electron activity that either shuts down energy production, imposes anticholinergia, misdirects or distorts chemical reactions, creates great clumps of dense garbage like when you see a road accident or trains crash, or just plain rips out chunks of your dna and rna when your cells go to function or reproduce. It's not entirely environmental, PD existed before these were created, but their widespread use can create so much havoc in your system that it creates effects that are much like or perhaps even sometimes exactly like PD, adding to the picture, and very hard to eliminate, adding to the crud-load your cells have to carry and work around and lug around, like never taking off your clothes, never being able to wash, and only ever adding more clothes. Pretty amazing our bodies cope as well as they do considering.

So you bet I believe environmental exposure causes it or worsens it. My college chancellor was claiming it would arise, and that was in the late 60s-early 70s.

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bepo in reply to MarionP

Good post.

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bepo in reply to park_bear

Thanks for posting .

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bcowart in reply to park_bear

I believe I was exposed to permethrin twice, PB. I contracted Scabies twice from the same girlfriend :(. I had to completely cover my body with permethrin for 24 hrs, twice, to get rid of the Scabies bugs that burrow under the skin and cause itching. We should have been warned of the potential side effects!

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bepo in reply to bcowart

Darn!

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park_bear in reply to bcowart

Indeed that would be quite a heavy exposure. Was that before you became symptomatic?

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bcowart in reply to park_bear

Yes. By about 20 years.

Enidah profile image
Enidah

I grew up on a farm next to an orchard that got sprayed regularly with Lord only knows what and I remember being quite damp from that spray and eating the fruit that it just been covered in it plus our well was right next to this orchard so I have never felt especially mystified by having Parkinson's. My sister has Addison's disease and my brother who was older when we moved to the farm so far seems to be okay. This was in the fifties and nobody was worrying about the effect on people.

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bepo in reply to Enidah

Oh, I'm so sorry. Do your best to detox, get those chemicals out of your body.

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MarionP in reply to Enidah

Seems highly likely to be a cause... neurological problems across the board. There was someone here a little bit back who was covered in drift from a neighbor farm spray, tons of symptoms which were devastating but not lining up or that were even opposite to known diseases, while cleary caused by the drift poisoning.

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WinnieThePoo

It may be worth remembering where this condition got its name. And when. And how many of the toxins being blamed for it existed then.

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bepo in reply to WinnieThePoo

What a great post!

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bepo in reply to WinnieThePoo

I am going to have to go back and revisit some of the research I did years ago when my husband first presented a tremor.

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WinnieThePoo

Thank you. But i realise my English was poor. That should have been how few toxins...

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glenandgerry in reply to WinnieThePoo

Bonsoir Winnie - been living in France too long. Lol :-)

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pvw2

Congressionally funded research for Army:

Parkinson's Research Program, Congressionally Directed Medical …

cdmrp.army.mil/prp/default

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bepo in reply to pvw2

Holy cow! There are a lot of videos. Thank you. ......so much to learn :)

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bepo in reply to pvw2

Thank you for posting this.

I have previously read that in PD the neurons haven't died, but lie dormant.

Interesting, I have a gene for PD, and my husband who has it, does not. That is in reference to the genes publicly identified by last year, 2019.

One of the first symptoms with my husband was a turned down lip on the right side, the same side where the tremor eventually presented.

He was hit with Agent Orange in VietNam.

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MarionP in reply to bepo

Perfect example of, as with many things, when the question is "is it genetic or environmental?" the answer is "Yes."

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pvw2

Many of us played American football. The head pounding in that game is a known cause of PD.

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pvw2 in reply to pvw2

UK football has similar results because of heading:

"The study found that former football professionals were much more likely to die from degenerative brain disease, and five times more likely to die as a result of Parkinson's disease."

Three UK Football Associations Ban Under 12s From Heading The Ball

ladbible.com/news/sport-thr...

MarionP profile image
MarionP in reply to pvw2

Anyone ever see videos of Muhammad Ali later in his life? But of course that head bashing resulted in what we call CTE.

bepo profile image
bepo in reply to pvw2

Absolutely, that is known to cause degenerative disease down the road. Some NFL players are being helped with hyperbaric oxygen, I believe.

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LAJ12345 in reply to pvw2

Oh yes my husband played football for years and repeated bashed his head on a wet heavy leather ball. Lucky balls are a bit lighter now but my sons also play which is a worry.

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bepo in reply to LAJ12345

It is a worry for my granddaughters, as well.

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Mjm012649

My husband worked on sod trucks as a young man. He delivered and handled the large rolls of grass/sod to golf courses etc. I wonder if these were chemically treated and could have caused him to be exposed to toxins?

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bepo in reply to Mjm012649

Very possibly. Find out what was in that sod, and get it out of his body through sweat.

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Pitchfixer

My Parkinson's diagnosis came during my third year in a house in which, six years later, I discovered that there was black mold. My neurologist at the time (I have since replaced him.) declined to investigate whether there was any connection between the presence of black mold and the onset of PD. ("I'm a neurologist, not a toxicologist," said he. "Bah-bye," said I.)

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MarionP in reply to Pitchfixer

Well they are different specialties after all. Maybe he was doing you a favor by telling you exactly that.

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bepo in reply to Pitchfixer

Toxic mold is a huge problem, particularly for those who are susceptible. Get it out of your body. Suzanne Summers, whom I consider to be a great interviewer, wrote TOXIC, all about her struggle with mold.

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Rwesol

ALUMINIUM!

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Despe in reply to Rwesol

S T R E S S, stressful jobs, and Agent Orange for starters. :(

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health_detective

I believe my PD was caused by mercury from a variety of sources, but primarily from dental amalgams - so-called "silver" fillings. Besides my tremor and PD diagnosis, I've had several bad reactions to medications (both pharmaceuticals and supplements) containing sulfur, which is a chelator of mercury. I had my amalgams removed safely about 18 months ago, and I now seem to be able to take sulfur supplements (MSM and ALA) with no negative effects. I have been considering doing chelation to see if my PD symptoms are relieved.

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bepo in reply to health_detective

Chelation has worked for my pwp in reducing his heavy metal toxicity, but didn't seem to effect his PD. We are continuing to work on sweating out the chemicals.

Steve1376 profile image
Steve1376

My husband was in the Navy and exposed to nuclear powered "muck". We did a hair sample and he's full of Uranium. Navy will only acknowledge Parkinson's from agent orange. Anyone out there on a nuclear powered ship with Parky. And how are you detoxing him?

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bepo in reply to Steve1376

I'm sorry for your struggles! See about getting rid of all the toxic substances in his body. Sweating through saunas works for most toxins. Look at the tests offered by Great Plains Lab in the US. My husband tested high, off the charts on many of those toxic compounds. Maybe EDTA would work as well. If you look to see what caused the problem rather than just treating the symptoms you might reverse some of the PD. I don't know. That's one of the things we are working on. We are all experimental models. We are all different.

Steve1376 profile image
Steve1376

Thank you, he's unable to do saunas with diabetics. I will look up the other things you suggested

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bepo in reply to Steve1376

Diabetes 2 can be reversed in a few weeks with proper diet and exercise. Research it.

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