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Dr. McDougall diet as opposed to keto diets. Dr. Mcdougall's starch and plant based diet.

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Interesting site, interesting arguments. There's so many diets that have come and gone. How do you square a keto diet against starch diet? They both have simply wonderful Arguments for them. The above side has a lot of information, you have to go to home and start exploring from there. Dr. McDougall will be similar to dr. Ornish.

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Mary, no medical link for Parkinson's.

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drmcdougall.com/misc/2010nl...

That is the link from 2010 that I was able to find. I'm really confused buy those directly opposed ways of eating.

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Makes us two, Mary! Keto, Paleo, Mediterranean, exotic, Chinese, etc. etc. It is so confusing.

My husband was on a keto (light) diet and lost about 30 pounds. We were very happy until we realized that he kept losing weight to the point that he is trying to gain weight now. From 200lbs he is down to157lbs! I know PwP either lose or gain weight, but still there has to be a way to maintain a healthy weight. We basically follow Mediterranean diet, but I think I am going to add more healthy carbohydrates.

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Hi Despe,

Shortly after my Parkinson's diagnosis I was diagnosed with diabetes 2. I followed a keto diet for a few years however my blood glucose numbers were still high. I did lose weight and I never felt all that great. A while back one of the health sites did a summit for diabetes espousing a whole food starch-based diet. Was I surprised to hear that that was what they were proposing. And of course they produced a whole bunch of proof for helping diabetes. So, I did start eating carbohydrates again in bigger numbers. I still eat very small amount of meat, maybe once a day, I pretty much stopped eating eggs, before I had 3 eggs scrambled in the morning. I eat a very small amount of any kind of fats now. Believe it or not I'm feeling better. I gained some weight back, to my previous weight. The only thing is I believe that carbohydrates increase your appetite, since we have different tolerance to carbohydrates and we can become addicted to them.

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The above site is very interesting. She makes so much sense and her explanation is great. Her diet is good also.

I have seen people that becomes sick lose weight, it seems like it's almost overnight. Therefore, I believe it's might be better to have a little bit of fat on you. I don't know what the answers are,. You can get to the same destination by a different route. I'm not very smart. Mary

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Thanks, Mary. I will read her site and see what she recommends about putting weight back on (just a little :) ).

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She's about losing weight, however I'm sure but your husband could eat more.

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He started eating a couple of slices of sour dough bread with peanut butter, more nuts, and a few other healthy carbohydrates. I think we are done with the light keto diet. He lost a lot of weight and he feels out of energy. Hope that his Mediterranean diet enhanced with good bread, peanut butter and a few other good, organic edibles will help him gain some weight back. Guess different diets benefit different people, "it's not one size fits all." I was raised with the mentality "Everything in moderation." Our bodies need nutrients from all different kinds of whole foods.

Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Here is a link to the McDougall newsletter with the article on PD.

drmcdougall.com/misc/2010nl...

There are other long term studies like The China Study by T. Colin Campbell which indicate the typical meat and dairy western diet is one of the causes of the growing health issues in our population.

nutritionstudies.org/the-ch...

and this post from Parkinson's news today

parkinsonsnewstoday.com/201...

A diet high in carbohydrates is not the best for those who also have Diabetes.

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answerseeker

I have been a practicing nutritionist for the past 20 years having studied both "Western" and "Eastern" perspectives. (I am also the wife of a man who was diagnosed with PD about 15 years ago.) It can be confusing if you think the same dietary model will fit all people. I've found better results when I look at the person and base my recommendations on their individual constitution, metabolic type and figure out what systems need extra support (e.g digestion, hormone balance, sugar metabolism, etc.)

In today's foods, organic and non-GMO and real, unprocessed foods with ample hydration is a good place to start. A system of tracking food intake, sleep, exercise, sun exposure and symptom changes will help you figure out what is working well for you and where you might make some changes and see the result.

Hope you find that helpful.

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Gobbsofjoy

I tried the vegan diet two times; when I was 24 and when I was 60. In both cases I lost weight which I cannot afford to lose and I lost energy to do anything even slightly strenuous. It looks good on paper but for me not a good choice. There is a middle ground and many good practices have come into my diet. Mainly I do not eat meat as a main dish, rather as a flavoring/addition to a recipe....for example broccoli beef or stir fry veggies with teriyaki chicken.

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